Forgot to include this reminder. (Don’t whine about the pandemic either, because you don’t cut Biden slack on that when it comes to any other global economic issue.) Also, Democrats need to stop being scared to point this out. If Republicans had this data point, they’d create a news channel that only aired that graphic 24/7.
Thanks for the daily card-carrying lockstep GOP narrative update. Biden is a dictator Got it. Can you give us a spoiler of what it will be tomorrow?
No, I am one of those people that sees what is really going on and does not follow the "cool crowd" like I see on this thread. I get it, people dont like Trump but to actually think Biden is decent? Delusional
Decent is a loaded term. What does that mean? Biden has a career in high positions of power. Most people loke that I wouldn't label as "decent". He's done many things I find reprehensible in the past but again we live in a two party world where I have to chose between a 80 year old out of touch geezer or a 78 year old fascist wannabe or his younger wannabe fascist protegee in DeSantis. Anyways I was just asking if you buy into the schrödinger's theory of communism with Biden? Is he somehow a verbatim communist yet he attracts all the wealthy capitalist owners of wealth who have the majority nod shares of these massive corporations. Is Biden like tricking these woke capitalists and then going to sneak up behind them and steal their private property and distribute it to the masses? Should we warn these woke capitalists?
he went to Independence Hall and, flanked by marines, labelled millions of citizens who oppose him politically as enemies of the Republic all in the context of Big Tech censoring Biden's political opposition and three-letter agencies coming after them hard as well something straight out of Star Wars or how any dictator rises to power It's an ugly midterm strategy, but it's the best they have when record low percentages of voters think we are on the right track. If the GOP is so extreme as Biden says, why are they crushing the Dems by double digits among independents on the generic ballot question?
Let's create a hypothetical scenario where you agree there is a rising fascist movement. Let's say you were transfered back in time to 1925 Germany. I assume you agree that the Nazi party was a fascist party. Would you accuse the politicians in that era of labeling parts of the country as semi fascist as wanting to be eventual dictators? I'm just trying to figure out of for you there is an appropriate threshold or context where it would be not dictator like for a politician to reference a fascist movement rising in the country. Can you expand on what conditions need to be met for you to think that a political leader can sincerely make that statement without you considering them to want dictatorial power? I think of you can make those limits for you clear, we can have a useful debate/conversation.
I have a lot of issues with this speech. While I have no love for the beliefs and actions of MAGA Republicans (or Republicans in general), I don't see any utility in calling them out in this manner. The violent rhetoric from MAGAs isn't a secret, and the people who support Biden aren't underestimating the danger it poses. On the flip side, MAGAs aren't exactly a self-reflective lot, and I didn't hear anything in Biden's words that would either inspire self-reflection or welcome those who are ready to "change sides." Why make such a big spectacle of stating the obvious? Second, if the President is going make such a big deal of calling out MAGAs, then that call-out needs to be accompanied by a list of actions he and his office plan to take to neutralize their actions. For example, he talked about law-enforcement, poll workers and election officials all being threatened and intimidated. Why wasn't this accompanied by him saying what the executive branch would do to ensure these public servants' safety? Third, Biden spent the rest of the speech listing his accomplishments. That's fine, but if there is an existential threat to our republic, bragging about the Infrastruture legislation seems a rather pointless tangent. I get that he wants to prove that his way is not just morally right, but productive as well, but it came off to me like a CEO bragging about increased sales in a meeting about sexual harrassment issues in the R&D department. In essence, the President used this speech to broadly rally his supporters and condemn the MAGAs, but offered nothing of substance action-wise (beyond his insistence that we vote). By failing to offer any specific actions or remedies to the dangers posed by the MAGAs, he leaves himself vulnerable to attacks from both MAGAs and sympathetic conservatives that all he was interested in doing was demonizing the opposition. And really, they'd have a legit point. Given that Biden has had a number of political victories recently, this speech was (in execution) wholly unnecessary, and I worry that the low-attention, low-enthusiasm voters (who may be the difference in the close state-level and Congressional/Senate races) will be turned off rather than engaged.
that speech wasn’t for MAGA, they are too far gone…it was for the rest of the country that has some sense and the few Republicans that still have a pulse to not let up and recognize that the country is at stake he is separating the Republican Party into the ones who still believe in America, and the extremist MAGA movement that is taking over the party…Are they gonna work to remove the cancer or not?
This is a situation where a younger more charismatic speaker who can incorporate nuance in their speeches like Obama would be able to be more effectively call out fascist movements without being so blunt and divisive. Biden is just too old. He doesn't have it in him to effectively fight these movements through speech.
it is time to be blunt…Idk why y’all want to keep handling MAGA with kid gloves and be nice If u are someone Republican or otherwise who doesn’t believe in this extremist MAGA movement, then why would u be offended? He was targeting MAGA, and they need to be targeted. They try to divide America every single day, and then the minute they get called out, it’s “stop being so divisive Biden”…it’s like the bully crying that the bullied is now sticking up for themselves
If federal police were used to spy on the opposition party and incarcerate its leader. If federal officials worked with media corporations to censor political opposition. If a country's leader labeled his political opposition as enemies of the state (depending on what actions that pretense led to).
This is where you're mistaken. The vast majority of people are sheeple and live with blinders on. Having the president call out a radical side-pocket is going to be a surprise to a lot of people. Or it's going to solidify what a lot of people already suspect. The D&D and the slavering political news cycle isn't a sample of the general populace. If the president of the USA says something, it means something to most people. That's why Trump was so dangerous.
I understand your despair, and your fright is palpable; I'm pretty sure you're on a list somewhere in Joe's office.
If Biden is going to use our money for these political speeches he should go all out and put it on ABC, nbc, and CBS so the whole nation can appreciate his greatness. And take a few questions, too.
I would have preferred if he focused solely on MAGA and not on his accomplishments. I actually fast-forward through that part. It deluded the message. This was aimed at non-MAGA. Democracy, until just recently, was not a top issue for voters. This speech aims to take that topic and make it a #1 issue for 2022 and 2024. What could the executive branch do specifically outside of what they are currently doing (DoJ holding J6 accountable, DoJ election threat task force going after those that threaten poll workers)? And remember that the DoJ is supposed to be an independent agency. Biden should not be telling them specifically what to do. He should, as he did, outline the dangers of a dangerous philosophy and allow the DoJ to operate independently. To me, outside of focusing on this as a major issue and bringing the attention of the nation to it, the specifics he could do is encourage Congress to pass laws to protect poll workers and protect democracy (which he has already done but did not speak to in this speech perhaps because it has failed to pass - it was filibustered and there isn't 60 Vote to overcome that). I cannot think of what specifically the executive branch can propose. This is more awareness and focuses on a threat that the only thing that can be done is to vote out the MAGA.
