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2022 Astros Minor League Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Dec 8, 2021.

  1. Joe Joe

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    Did MLB change postseason eligibility rules as all it takes (from previous years) to get Brown and Diaz on a postseason roster are 2 players who have been on the IL for the at least the minimum amount of time? Blake Taylor and Brantley would seem to meet the IL condition if things haven't changed.
     
  2. juicystream

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    I'm guessing Garcia & Martinez are among the pitchers.

    Dubon will be one of the position players. Diaz or Lee will be added to give them an emergency catcher.
     
  3. IdStrosfan

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    This was posted on another board I follow. I do not know the source.

    3. All other players on a club’s MLB Reserve List (40-man roster), MLB 60-day Injured List, and Military List prior to midnight (Eastern) on August 31st are automatically placed on a club’s Post-Season Eligibility List and are eligible to be included on a post-season series Active List (25-man roster), but a player on an MLB 60-day Injured List who otherwise would be eligible to be included on a Post-Season Eligibility List is NOT eligible to be included until the player has spent at least 60 days on the Injured List, and a player on the MLB 60-day Injured List is NOT eligible to play in a post-season series until the player has spent at least 60 days on the Injured List AND the player has been reinstated from the 60-day Injured
     
  4. rockets1995

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    Yainer Diaz really looks like Jose Abreu Physically a Big Dude, Both are Cuban

     
  5. bobrek

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    According to mlb.com, it's 26.

    https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/26-man-roster

    A club's 26-man roster is its full roster of active Major League players from Opening Day through Aug. 31, and during the postseason....
     
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  6. rockets1995

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    Thank You Myles Straw for Yainer Diaz and Phil Maton ( Last Year Postseason)
     
  7. IdStrosfan

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    The Astros have 40 players on the 40 man roster

    PLUS:

    Brantley, Castro, Josh James, and Blake Taylor on the 60 day IL.

    None of those 4 count now towards the 50 so can't be moved to make room for anyone else.

    PLUS:

    Josh James went on a rehab assignment 8/25 so must be put back on the 40 man or DFA'd before the regular season ends.

    I think the team should DFA Goodrum and Ronel Blanco to make room for Brown and Diaz ( though I prefer Leon for this team) now before the playoff eligibility deadline.

    Then on 9/24 they will need to DFA another player. Josh James, Brandon Bielak, and Taylor Jones look to be the options.
     
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    Diaz is Dominican
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    A player who doesn't meet said criteria for postseason eligibility can still be added to a team's roster in the postseason via petition to the Commissioner's Office if the player was in the organization on Aug. 31 and is replacing someone who is on the injured list and has served the minimum amount of time required for activation. (For example, a player on the 10-day injured list who has been on it for at least 10 days, or a player who has been on the 60-day injured list for at least 60 days.) Players who are acquired in September or after are ineligible.
    Postseason roster rules
    Teams submit a 26-man roster (it was 25, prior to 2020) prior to each round of the postseason comprised of postseason-eligible players.

    Brantley, James, Castro, and Taylor all meet the IL requirement as they will be on 60-day IL for 60 days per MLB.com. On James, I'm pretty sure Astros can end rehab assignment and keep him on the IL instead of DFA. They just can't have him playing in the minors for more than 20 days straight.

    I expect the Astros to make moves to add Diaz and Brown prior to 8/31, but this loophole seems to get exploited every year by some team (I'm pretty sure the Astros used it on Siri last year). Whether it is one of those guys or someone else, the Astros will make sure they have ability to use the loophole in case they need to use it.

    Someone may need to be cut from 40-man if the Astros use this loophole (not sure on this), but if that is the case, it doesn't need to happen prior to 8/31 (though I expect this to happen for Brown and Diaz).
     
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  10. rockets1995

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    My bad, now I remember the flag
     
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  11. Wulaw Horn

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    Every year people screw this up. Every year they act like 40 on 8/31 is necessary but it isn't. Unless it got changed in the last CBA. I do not believe it did.
     
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    This fits my understanding of the rules. Essentially the only hard and fast rule is that they need to be in the organization before September 1. The rest of the rules are flexible enough that the timing of the call up is irrelevant. I think there's even been some players make their MLB debut in the postseason.
     
  13. Joe Joe

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    Yep. I said this in another thread, but MLB just needs to change the rule to be in the organization by September 1st, and let teams manage the 40-man however the hell they want with players in their organization. Want to add a pinch runner on September 30th to 40-man so guy can be on postseason roster...fine. Want to add a emergency catcher on September 28th....go ahead.
     
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    Rules have been changed so often, or flat out ignored (lets just skip that rule 5 thing) in the last few years that I do not even try to keep up with them any more.
     
  15. Wulaw Horn

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    That's absolutely a fair point. But, every year for like 20 years this discussion happens all over America, everyone gets all worked up and they are all wrong. KRod in 2002 was the first guy I ever remember playing in the playoffs that wasn't on the 40 man as of 9/1/2022. Since then there have been tons of guys that have done it.
     
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    This rule goes back to when there was the Aug 31st waiver trade system. After midnight on Aug 31st if they weren't in the organization then they couldn't be on the post season roster. It was to prevent a team from waiving someone the last week of the season and having a playoff team claim him. It looks like they never or didn't think it needed to be updated. We all should remember the days in August when practically every vet on every team was put on recallable waivers just to see who would get claimed. Then the teams would work out the compensation once they knew who claimed the player. It was also a tool used to shed salary. There were cases where a team claimed an expensive player trying to block someone below them in line only to have the waiving team say fine you can have him for nothing.
     
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    Man…kinda feel for Taylor Jones…seems pretty clear we are over him with promotions of JJ and Diaz. I would’ve pegged Jones for some ABs at some point this year in an emergency call up role, but it looks like he’ll continue his career elsewhere.
     
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    I'm probably the minority here, but I actually liked the old system. One of the things I love about baseball is just how stupidly wacky and complicated the rules are in almost all facets. These rules are just remnants of compromises made long ago in a completely different environment. It's not at all how anyone would intentionally design a system either for efficiency or to best serve it's intended purpose. And yet it provides so many wonderful and weird avenues for success. It's just very American.
     
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    Shay Whitcomb hit 2 HR tonight, his 17th and 18th of the season and 7th and 8th in August. Huge month for him. Adequate middle infield defense with 20+ HR power and 10+ SB speed is a baseline for a decent MLB/AAAA bench piece, and if he can figure out how to dramatically lower that 34% k rate then he could be an everyday player.
     
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  20. tellitlikeitis

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    Shay Whitcomb's second home run of the night was a grand slam.

     

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