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Jalen Green Needs to be Benched

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wizkid83, Jan 25, 2022.

  1. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

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    Gotta say I really disagree.

    The point of a message board is to discuss things. Argue our sides of the debate. Dissect each other’s arguing points. Bust each other’s balls when the results are in.

    In this specific case we didn’t really need to wait for the results, but at this point the results are in. Benching Jalen Green for struggling early on in his rookie season was always a dumb idea.

    Ball busting is justified, especially for some of the more vocal people on the wrong side.
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think it's good to show people that everyone needs to be a bit patient as fans and not judge things based on a few months.
     
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  3. Pistol Pete

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    I seriously doubt that he is as abrasive in person as he is here. Typical internet brave guy.
     
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  5. topfive

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    BTG's patented 2-step method:

    1. Post something incredibly stupid.
    2. Waste the rest of the thread vociferously attempting in vain to explain why something so incredibly stupid on the surface was actually very astute if you're intelligent enough to understand it.
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    In the end, he sort of was benched, the org held him out WAY longer on his leg to heal so he could watch from the bench - and when he came back he was a different player.....just sayin....

    DD
     
  7. glimmertwins

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    I think the important context that myself and others mentioned at the time is that Jalen was rebuilding his shot form in real time at the start of the season at the insistence of the coaches. As I understood it, it wasn't that it was broken so much as his form was more susceptible to fatigue and put limits to his range because it was a 2 motion shot(had a hitch at the top) rather than a single motion. For an exaggerated version of that think about that Jordan shot over Ehlo's Cavs where Ehlo hung with him defensively but Jordan waited for Ehlo to start his descent while he kind of hung up there and shot much later in his jump. Jordan had elite athleticism but also had the stamina to sink that at the end of a game when his legs(and thus his form) would change because in theory he isn't get as much lift in his jump. Jordan eventually made a similar tweaking of his form later in his career.

    Great athletes can get away with it because of their elite athleticism but it IS a generally less efficient shot because you get less out of your legs as the game progresses so the coaching staff prioritized that early for Green to develop those mechanics - not going to be young with boundless energy and athleticism forever! Since Green is an elite athlete who already had a pretty good feel for G-league game speed, I imagine they decided his time would be better spent working out the kinks in real NBA speed since he was ALSO working on making offensive an defensive reads at faster game levels(which also wasn't great to start the year)....and oh by the way, we get the added benefit of losing more....not saying that was the only problem JG had to start the year, but it certainly led to some of the less desirable data points used to justify the "Green is historically bad" justifications..

    ....I think the lesson here for @Bobbythegreat & @DaDakota is to be skeptical but not to necessarily write off everyone advocating for Green as a fanboy.
     
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  8. jordnnnn

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    Please…. 67 games played. 67 games started.

    Holding him out a little longer than necessary after he got hurt was not what this thread or the bench Jalen group were ever talking about even if it were 100% accurate. It was “facing 2nd units” to gain confidence and so on….
     
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  9. BHannes2BHonest

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    Just stopped in to say I’m glad I never saw this thread

    wow. Clutch fans never change
     
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  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Right.... it was a big L with the Corey Brewer mention.
     
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  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Well yeah, there's still people too dumb to understand what was said, and they take an L every time they bring it up.... even if they aren't bright enough to realize it.
     
  12. dmoneybangbang

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    Nah. It was a stupid statement then and a stupid statement now.

    You were wrong, that's all there is to it. Hopefully you learned some patience before making Corey Brewer statements.
     
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    Safe to say that worrying that Green might end up being a worse player than Corey Brewer was a stupid take especially when it wasn't even a month into the season. Booby can spin it however he wants, but it was quite a premature reaction and looks extremely stupid with what we seen now from Green.
     
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  14. King1

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    He's the worst poster on the board. You would typically think it's impossible for anyone to be that stupid but time and time again he proves it
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    You're just explaining how you either don't know what was actually said, or that you are too feeble minded to have comprehended what was actually said.

    Nothing I said was inaccurate.
     
  16. DatRocketFan

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    With what booby know and see now from green would Booby still compare Green to Corey Brewer?
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    If you were capable of understanding what was said, then you wouldn't struggle with it. Unfortunately your shortcomings are what they are.

    When I said "if Green never develops he could end up another Corey Brewer" it was true.... and we saw how terrible he was for more than half the season that pretty much confirmed what I said was true.

    Fortunately, he showed signs of development towards the end of the season and he dramatically improved.

    Green developing doesn't debunk concerns of what could happen if he didn't develop, it just renders the conversation moot.

    I know, this is all over your head and you'll be repeating the same stupid rhetoric a few weeks from now.... I'm not sure why I even bother spelling this all out for you time and time again.
     
  18. flamingdts

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    Jalen Green's first 27 games.

    15/3/2 on TS 53.42%, -12.6

    Jalen Green's last 40 games.

    19/4/3 on TS 55.67%, -4.5

    For comparison's sake, in Green's last 33 games (half the season), he averaged 20/4/3 on TS 58.82%, -3.8.

    Green has been good, noticeably longer than he was bad. However, please feel free to share numbers that show "he was terrible for more than half the season".
     
  19. DatRocketFan

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    U said a lot of things that were sht here's a good one.

    It's not over my head, u legit liken Green as the next Corey brewer.

    Render moot pffft. Always likes to mock the intelligence of others when u are known for being the dumb#$$ to liken a rookie not even a month in to Corey brewer.
     
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  20. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not going to get into your godawful pedantry because what you're whining about is irrelevant to what is being discussed
     

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