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Black Player's White Teammates In Little League World Series Putting Cotton In His Hair

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Aug 30, 2022.

  1. tinman

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    Kids being kids
     
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  3. pgabriel

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    Agreed. However it's not a simple subject but I think it's progress that the kids are unaware of the sensitivity that this created.

    Cotton is the number one crop associated with slavery, I think most people would agree. That being said there is no reason that people need to know that, it's not a something that needs to be taught but when I was a kid I'm pretty sure both white and black kids would be aware of why Black people would take offense to the video.

    Another potential sensitive subject and maybe it actually was why the black kid was chosen is black hair. That being said black kids so proudly where natural hair in terms of afros and dreadlocks more nowadays and maybe that should be seen as progress whereas it definitely would have been looked as insult even in the seventies because an underlying issue is he is the lone black kid. I mention seventies because of the popularity of afros.
     
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  4. Invisible Fan

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    I'm not sure why I gotta care about every little thing.

    Maybe if I wanted a YT channel to burn content then I can get worked up about it to suss things out along with my flock.
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    I'd say as a kid (1980s) I would have been completely surprised and befuddled to hear black people took offense to that video. I knew about the association between cotton and slavery. But, I'd have been shocked as a kid to hear that someone still thought it was relevant. One, I had no sense of time as a kid and the era of slavery felt like it was a million years ago (the older I get, the further back in history I can reach and relate to, somehow). And two, while I was taught about slavery and reconstruction, my education on the ensuing history that connects those things to the present day (the KKK, the diaspora, Jim Crow, civil rights era, etc) were anemic, which gave me the feeling that many white people of my generation seemed to have felt -- that we had mostly "solved racism" already and whatever the persecution was a century or two ago, it didn't much matter anymore. So I'd have been incredulous. Don't feel that way anymore, but that's partly from growing up and partly from how times have changed.
     
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    This is true.

    We live in an era where people want to white wash history. Mark Twain cannot be read in some schools because of the language he used, yet the fact that it is a reflection of the attitudes of the USA at the time AND that he is actually portraying racism as a negative doesn't matter. Kids in a school textbook in some areas are not allowed to see a black man hung, because it is offensive. When the entire point is so that children can see just how bad racism can be, and was less than 100 years ago. The beliefs of the Nazi Party cannot be discussed, because the fear is that people will think it is being promoted, when really it is just to give context.

    What is taught is that every group outside of white men are and have been oppressed and there is no context taught, and no real way to bridge the divide and improve the problems.

    On the other side of the political aisle, the conservatives have decided that they too do not want children to learn the truth because it will make them little liberal warriors. They have decided they don't like science because it goes against their "gut" or what they learned growing up and what they falsely see as objective reality. There are alternative facts, which really means facts don't matter. There is a call to get rid of well educated educators and replace them with those that are not well educated or believe in science.

    It it all an effort to sculpt history and reality to their personal philosophy and both sides do it.

    It's okay to know that ****** is a nasty word and has been used to oppress people, but to also know it was commonly used.
     
  7. Nook

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    For what it is worth, unless something has changed, the child's parents said that nothing wrong happened. They said their son was taking part in it and there was nothing racist about it, that it was innocent and should be dropped.
     
  8. pgabriel

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    Black people still have a lot of baggage because of slavery. I actually would say we are the ones holding to the past. The pain and anger of slavery is still passed down in the way it talked about among Blacks

    I don't listen to the radio anymore because I don't drive but riding with someone I heard on this on a black radio station and they mentioned what the parents said. They were still wound up about it.
     
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    There is a limit to the excuse kids being kids though no?

    Like what happen if a kid is making fun of an Asian kid by doing the slant eye gesture?

    I think folks r allowed to get upset if they get offended. I'm can't b 100% sure this is nothing but if the parents aren't making a fuss, the kids aren't making a fuss personally I feel like it really isn't our problem to b a social justice warrior.
     
  10. jiggyfly

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    Why can't you be 100% sure this is nothing?

    What could it possibly be?

    Why would you equate this to a kid using slant eyes, that's something that has had negative connotations for over 100 years did I miss something about cotton balls being put in somebodies hair?

    So them putting cotton balls in the white kids' hair as well means what possibly?
     
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    1) Where the hell do you get cotton from at a baseball game?
    2) All German school kids have to visit Hitler's Eagle's Nest, according to the History podcast that I listen to.
     
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    I'm just saying folks shouldn't b using the excuse kids r just being kids if they could potentially b doing something racist.

    Africans do get triggered around cotton. Not all but some. I personally think it's nothing but to Africans they might get offended hence the percentage.
     
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    Teachable Moment

    As the meme says
    If Blacks kids are old enough to experience racism
    Other kids are old enough to learn about it.

    Just talk to them about it . . .move on

    Rocket River
     
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    This was in no way racist but for some reason, you seem hell-bent on trying to give it a hint of racism, I don't understand why?

    What percentage?

    Just like you think folks should not be using the excuse that boys will be boys people also should not be so willing to assign racism to things that have nothing to do with it.

    I am an African American and I have no problem telling AAs to stop getting offended by anything that can be thought of as mildly racist.

    Just because somebody gets offended does not mean the person who did the act was wrong, people get offended by all kinds of things these days, especially the twitter heads looking to get clicks.
     
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    exactly

    white wash history and erasing history is extremely stupid

    world war 2 was horrible, the crusades, civil war, holocausts etc
    you're suppose to LEARN from history not cancel it.

    If you cancel everything that was every bad in human history, you basically canceled human history, cause there's a lot of bad and it will continue to be like that for along time
     
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  16. jiggyfly

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    What's teachable about it?

    Stop finding racism in everything.

    Where is the racism here?

    What do you think needs to be said about this?

    How do you think that black kid is feeling with everybody calling his white friends racist and why should he carry that burden around for this innocent act?
     
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    So . . just let it go and say nothing about the situations
    Just let the white friends to continue to be called racist
    and let the black kid watch
    *shrug*

    Rocket River
     
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    I think I might have gotten wrong about what you thought was teachable.

    If so I apologize, but you said the black kid was old enough to experience racism when he did not experience racism.

    I agree it can be a teachable moment I just don't think it's a teachable moment about racism itself its about the evils of overreaction and how people pump things up to get followers on Twitter.

    What do you mean by situations?
     
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    That's not going to get past the people that use these kinds of things for clicks and the people that just want to be mad at everything.

    Anybody that took this as a negative is a person that looks for the negativity in most things and I can't understand that in any way.

    There is no logical reason why anybody should have felt offended by this especially since he was not the only kid that did it.

    Just as important as understanding the nation's history is also to not overreact to any perceived slights.

    Should black people now be offended by cotton balls?
     
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    We might not see the usage of cotton being place on top of a kids head as racist. But if the parents or other folk raises a fuss about it? What u gonna say: pipe down, stop trying to find racism?

    I just find that weird. If folks are offended it's their right to do so. Just bc u deem it's nothing doesn't mean u should dismiss what other folks r feeling

    My point is folks can't dismiss potentially racist acts by kids as it's just being kid. It's about letting a kid be more aware of what not to do.

    Like I don't think it's anything but I am not gonna disregard what other folks r feeling about the usage of cotton on an African kid head. Like I said cotton could trigger some Africans
     

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