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The state of the republican party

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  1. FranchiseBlade

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    I've already posted the relevant definition of concede.

    You're trying to change crap. Nobody but you believes Trump ever conceded. His actions, statements then and now bear that out.

    Let's look at Trump's words...

    “We will stop the steal,” he said at the rally. “Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election, and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.”

    "This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!"

    "I don't want to say the election's over," he said during the outtake. "I just want to say Congress has certified the results without saying the election's over."



    YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.

    Do you understand that Biden is and would be president regardless of whether Trump conceded or not?

    Admitting Biden will take office isn't conceding the election.
     
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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Some people just want to argue.....because they have some desperate need for attention.

    DD
     
  3. wekko368

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    You've posted what you think is the relevant definition of "concede". I provided the google definition. Here's the definition from wikipedia:

    In politics, a concession is the act of a losing candidate publicly yielding to a winning candidate after an election after the overall result of the vote has become clear.

    Based on that definition, Trump's words would indeed indicate that he conceded.

    If you google "did Trump concede?", how many headlines indicate that he did, in fact, concede?

    Perhaps you should be asking this to the poster who thought that Congress could "veto" an executive order.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm asking you.

    The definition I provided was from google, and I believe I provided a link. Other posters also posted the definition related to politics.

    You are not being honest. You are simply misusing the contextual meaning of words and trying to hide behind that. I'm not sure if you believe that it's clever or why you are choosing to do that.
     
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  5. wekko368

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    Based on Trump's statements, I believe he conceded. That's what I believe, and there's nothing dishonest about it. Why don't you go complain to the numerous news outlets that believe and printed the same thing?

    You need to focus on the big picture. You can't see the forest through the trees.

    If you want me to answer your question, you'll need to first explain why you think I don't understand how government works.
     
  6. Rileydog

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    To derail the ridiculous debate on concession…

    Right about now, if Trumpy were president, he would be screaming “the Fed is ruining the beautiful economy that I created and they should be all fired …. This is a political hit job from the deep state … terrible horrible people who want to wreck the economy so that I won’t be re elected … I am fantastic …and this is all happening because of open borders and brown people who are rapists and murderers…monkeypox is the gay plague…”

    how amazingly nice that Biden is …

    - not trying to run an autocracy

    - allowing experts to do their best to do their jobs

    - governing not grifting
     
  7. Space Ghost

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    We do not
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    I don't remember saying that you didn't know how government works, but if I did, it was likely because you implied that if Biden was President that would mean Trump conceded. When asked about Trump conceded you responded with comments about who was president, now.

    Much of the headlines about Trump and concession have to do with him conceding that Biden will be President which is different than conceding that he lost.

    I've used the analogy about conceding a stolen item isn't in in the possession of another person is different than conceding it rightfully belongs to that other person.
     
  9. wekko368

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    Then why would you ask such an elementary question?

    Again, you can't see the forest through the trees.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    Because you seem more intent on playing games with words rather than a discussion, so it brings the conversation down to that level.

    I guess the good thing I can say is that you didn't call people names.

    But this type of conversation isn't really entertaining for me due to your dishonest style of debate.
     
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  11. King1

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    Trump lost. No sane person should disagree. Biden might as well be comatose and our other problem is Kamala Harris who is worse than both. Better vote DeSantis if you care about the country. Most libs don't care because they don't have kids (couldn't get laid with 1k in their hands)
     
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  12. Xopher

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    So you're saying you get laid when you have 1k in your hands. Sounds about right.
     
  13. wekko368

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    I could say the exact same thing about you.

    When the election is for an office, why do you make such a big distinction between:

    "I concede the election."

    versus

    "I concede the office."

    It's just semantics. And I'm not dishonest at all. Petty? Absolutely. But definitely not dishonest.
     
  14. Xopher

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    I'm not saying you're the dumbest person on this board but if @raining threes dies, you're in trouble.
     
  15. wekko368

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    It's nice to know that I'm part of a board that's full of geniuses.
     
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  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Did you miss the part where he wrote "declare the rightful winner" prior to advocating doing a revote at a minimum?
     
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  17. wekko368

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    No, I didn't miss it.

    He conceded, and now, because of the Hunter Biden info, wants a redo or to be declared the rightful winner.

    Whatever nonsense Trump is currently attempting doesn't change the fact that he conceded in the past.
     
  18. dc rock

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    Wrong thread.
     
  19. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    How about straight from the horse's mouth 5 months after you say he "conceded"?

    Former President Donald Trump said on Monday that he has "not conceded" the November election.

    "I never admitted defeat," Trump said during an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, adding, "No, I never, the word is 'concede,' [and] I have not conceded."


    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-not-conceded-november-210600776.html
     
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