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Breaking: FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    How would his tax returns prove he has no ties to the Russians. If ties to the Russians were in tax returns they would be legitimate.

    People don't report illegal transactions to the IRS. That's the stupidity
     
  2. Amiga

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    This is one story that is easily confusing and is interesting for those seriously curious about what happened and how it should have been handled.

    IMO, social media and MSM did the right thing to shut down a likely intentionally fabricated smear campaign based on half-truths.

    ... should go into the Hunter Biden thread
     
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  3. CCorn

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    When did the thread here start? Before the election or not?
     
  4. dobro1229

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    Who said anything about illegal transactions? Foreign financial leverage could be totally legal. Answering the question about who pays you would go a long way in shutting down theories about how you actually get paid, and who owns you. That's the point dude.

    The conversation at hand is about why or why not is THE MEDIA covering the Hunter Biden story, and why they covered Trump/Russia. My point is that Trump's lack of transparency coupled with the steady stream of information that came out over time (like Michael Cohen releasing the Trump Tower Moscow letter of intent, and Don Jr's meeting at Trump Tower, etc.) is a big reason why the story is covered, and Joe Biden releasing all of his Tax Returns and financial disclosures (making the story unrelated to him) is a big reason why the Hunter laptop story isn't covered.

    There's no intrigue because you can dispel many many myths by simply seeing where the money is or isn't. Hunter Biden isn't running for President. He's the prodigal son of a president, and if you are a Christian who believes in those principles, the general public actually has sympathy for someone with a screw up son that you still love despite it all. That's a big reason why the Hunter Biden story isn't a big one.... it actually makes people admire Joe Biden because of how we are taught at a young age to view parents in this situation.
     
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  5. justtxyank

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    It's pure denial to pretend this story wasn't squashed, slow walked, buried, etc. Just because it was out there doesn't mean it wasn't being buried.

    By the way, I'm not saying it's relevant at all to Joe Biden's presidency or whether he should have been elected, but it is absolutely a worthwhile discussion topic to explore what was done with that story.
     
  6. justtxyank

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    That is not why the Hunter story was downplayed. It was downplayed because of multiple dilemmas:
    1) It came close to the election and there was a real taint from the Comey Clinton announcement and how that likely broke Clinton's electoral back
    2) There was a realization that this was likely irrelevant to Joe Biden but was being weaponized by Trump. He presented a unique quandary as he's the first mainstream candidate to weaponize lies and half truths and propaganda in the way he did.
    3) It was about the son of a candidate
    4) The origins of the story were seedy

    The media doesn't give two ***** about whether Joe's tax returns showed or didn't show any thing with Ukraine. Has zero to do with Hunter's laptop. The media, FB, etc. were leery about being weaponized to launch a seedy smear campaign that would damage an election.
     
  7. Reeko

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  8. Amiga

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    The gov has always warned of potential threats to private parties. It does NOT require the private party to take action. There is no 1A problem here.

    The fact that the FBI warns FB means that they have information about foreign interference in the 2020 election (shouldn't surprise anyone).

     
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  9. justtxyank

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    Yeah because Trump's rent-a-lawyers waited 2 weeks until they saw someone on tv tell them they should have a special master.
     
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  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Everyone knows how much money Joe Biden makes because he was a public official. That's the other stupidity of tax returns.

    The story wasn't about legitimate transactions. It was about the Russians illegally helping which would not be cleared by tax returns. Don't repeat that again, please
     
  11. Amiga

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    Yea. In the redacted search warrant, the FBI said it has two teams to handle materials. One team will comb through all the material to see if there is any attorney-client privilege info and if so, will keep those inaccessible to the other team. But I'm sure Trump team will say they want to exclude more than just attorney-client privilege info.
     
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  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Mostly because there wasn't ever going to be much executive privilege.

    It's a stalling tactic, but also confirms that he did indeed have classified documents which would be illegal.
     
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  13. FranchiseBlade

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    If there is rioting then hold them accountable. Use whatever forces are needed to restore order.

     
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  14. Reeko

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    Idk why the incompetence of Trump’s lawyers still astonishes me

    waiting 2 weeks to request a Special Master…incorrectly filing paperwork not once, but twice

    you’d think they’d be on their A game when working for a former president and someone of Trump’s stature

    So why is it often amateur hour?

    this is like having that demon semon doctor as your primary care physician…c’mon man
     
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  15. Ziggy

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    Good, we can put more criminals away, away from society. GEO calls all day.
     
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  16. Reeko

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    MAGA militia training video



    and here’s them practicing foreplay, I mean pat downs…lmao

     
  17. justtxyank

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    I think mostly it's because they are morons and are in way over their head because most great lawyers don't want a client who won't listen to them. However, they are definitely going to pimp this as a WIN. Expect a "HUGE VICTORY TODAY" tweet/truthy whenever the judge appoints one.
     
  18. larsv8

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    Well.....

    1.) He doesn't pay his bills, so there is no financial incentive.
    2.) Most of former attorneys have either been indicted or disciplined.
    3.) He has a losing case.
    4.) Half of the people who have worked with him, if they show any level of courage and actually do the right thing, have their lives ruined via his Maga Cult followers.

    Would you want to do business with him?
     
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  19. justtxyank

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    He's had really good lawyers at times. It all unraveled with the election. He doesn't want the best lawyers, he wants lawyers who will use HIS strategies. We have multiple high profile lawyers who've worked with him either directly say under oath or strongly imply it elsewhere that he was brutal to represent because he won't follow your legal advice. So he's stuck with people way out of their depth who are willing to do almost anything he asks.
     
  20. justtxyank

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    For the record, this gets said a lot but it's been disputed repeatedly by the lawyers who've worked with him and the ones who've declined to work with him. We know the RNC has been paying his legal bills.

    Payment issues are funny to mock him for but I don't think that's why. In a vacuum, many lawyers would love to represent a president for almost nothing because of the exposure. Trump is a horrible client. He makes his attorneys miserable. And then like you said, he throws them under the bus and they get attacked and slandered by his supporters.
     

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