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The state of the republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

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    I don’t completely support the loan forgiveness EO but yes it’s hard to even put it in the category of dictatorial moves for the reasons above.
     
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  2. Xopher

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    Did she take out a loan for her GED?
     
  3. wekko368

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    If you recall, I believe President Biden's plan for student loan cancellation to be unconstitutional, and the other poster was totally on board with it. Remember, I don't believe that a single occurrence of a dictatorial action turns a president into a dictator.

    Anyways, it got me thinking....if the poster's agenda were aligned with that of a dictator's, would he support the dictatorship?
     
  4. wekko368

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    Imagine that DatRocketFan were a reporter, and I said what I said.

    If he ran with the headline "Wekko368 accuses President Biden of being a dictator", and I sued him for libel, would he win?

    Obviously he'd lose.
     
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  5. wekko368

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    Are you familiar with the recent Supreme Court ruling against the EPA?
     
  6. wekko368

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    Wouldn't the aggrieved party be the tax-paying public? An argument could also be made that Congress is an aggrieved party since they hold the power of the purse, and the logic used to forgive $10k could also be used to forgive $1.6 trillion.
     
  7. leroy

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    Yeah...and? One of these things is not like the other. Also, did President Biden take executive action AFTER that ruling, forcing the things that the SC shot down anyway? The act of creating and executing an Executive Order is not unconstitutional. If there is standing to sue to prevent it from happening and then the SC determines it is unconstitutional, then so be it. President Biden isn't going to take further action other than to implore on Congress to do something.

    Problem for you and those that are against this is...it's not clear if anyone has standing to sue. Based on what I quoted you earlier, it appears the Secretary of Education has the right to do exactly this in times just like this. i also doubt there are many in Congress, regardless of how they feel about it, that want to be on record being the cause of this getting repealed...under 90 days from the midterms.
     
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  8. No Worries

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    ... and the honest part too.
     
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  9. CCorn

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    Party has a great future.

     
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  10. wekko368

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    Given that the income limits are arbitrary in nature, wouldn't someone just outside the income limits have standing to sue?

    While that does pose a problem, don't most people assume this will eventually end up in court?

    Regarding the Supreme Court and the EPA, Justice Kagan claimed that the Clean Air Act (which I have not read) gave the EPA the authority to regulate coal-fired power plants. However, the Supreme Court ruled that since the EPA's regulations were "transformational" to the economy, Congress needed to specifically authorize such actions.

    IMO, though President Biden only wants to cancel $10k, the wording of text of the HEROES Act would allow for him to cancel the entire $1.6 trillion balance of student loans. To me, this would be "transformational" to the economy.

    I think there are also issues related to our current state of "emergency".
     
  11. DatRocketFan

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    What a bunch of horses sht.

    If u recalled
    U just straight up asked me if I support the dictator (biden) or dictatorship as I was praising Biden's excutive order to provide student loan relief.

    Everything that u mentioned after is just mental gymnastics aka making sht as u go along.

    -I believe President Biden's plan for student loan cancellation to be unconstitutional. (After intial post)

    -I don't believe that a single occurrence of a dictatorial action turns a president into a dictator. (After inital post)

    -Folks who support dictorial actions equal dictator supporters. (After initial post)


    Hell u even have the gall to say folks who support dictorial actions equal dictator supporters is the same **** as do u support dictatorship if your goals align.

    No normal folk would straight up wonder if a person support a dictator without any trigger. Yours Is apparently about Biden student loan relief move. Case closed.

    Just keep reminding yourself biden cant b a dictator
     
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  12. wekko368

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    Please provide a quote where I specifically refer to President Biden as a dictator.
     
  13. DatRocketFan

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    No one was even talking about dictator or dictatorship as I was talking about Bidens student relief plan.

    Right after
    Why would you ask me if I support dictatorship or dictator right after?

    What triggered u to wonder that?

    What did I even say for u 2 wonder that?

    Yea keep pushing the amber heard defense, I didn't specifically refer to johnny depp in the article therefore I wasn't talking about him.

    Like I said keep reminding yourself whatever Biden does or will do in his presidency, he aint a dictator.
     
  14. DatRocketFan

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    Straight up. Why would u ask if I support the dictator or dictatorship as I was praising biden student loan relief.

    What triggered you to even ask that? What impression did I give for you to even think that I could even support dictatorship.

    @wekko368
     
  15. wekko368

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    Again, please provide a quote where I specifically refer to President Biden as a dictator.
     
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  16. DatRocketFan

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    Just Answer the fking question

    What triggered u to ask me if I support dictatorship or the dictator as I was praising bidens excutive move to provide student loan relief.
     
  17. wekko368

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    Already answered above. Post #4163.
     
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  18. DatRocketFan

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    So let's be clear. U thought bidens move was unconstitutional.

    Then u proceed to ask me if I support the dictator or dictatorship bc i praise biden move. But it's not about Biden bc u didn't mention biden specifically?

    Yea u r a dumba$$.
     
  19. Invisible Fan

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    There's already a strawman thread in the D&D for pure ****ery.
     
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  20. wekko368

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    Just so we're clear, you thought I implied that President Biden was a dictator so you accused me of saying he was a dictator.

    Meanwhile, I've said countless times that I think student loan debt cancellation is unconstitutional, but you want further clarity that this is, in fact, my position?

    You sure are an interesting person.

    It couldn't have been about President Biden because I don't think he's a dictator.
     

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