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Carlos Correa to the Twins - 3 Years, $105 Million

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by TheresTheDagger, Mar 19, 2022.

  1. Major

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    People seem really desperate for Correa to be unhappy.
     
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    If this series had been played in Minnesota, I wonder if their fans would have started booing him by the 3rd game. 1 hit and 1 RBI in an important series.
     
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    I was not expressing my "wishes," just my observations. I did want him to stay with the Astros.
     
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    He might get 30 mil+ but that’s basically what the Astros offered before. Wasn’t it 5 yr/160 mil?
     
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    That’s low value to pay for only prime years. It was a miserable offer for a franchise cornerstone designed not to spur demisxussion or negotiation but to give ownership the ability to say they tried as he walked out the door. mid you wanted to out an opt out after year 2 it would have been a reasonable offer but they were adamant they weren’t doing that.
     
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    He’s on the verge of making lesser or equal to that offer so it’s hard to call it a miserable offer.
     
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    He was offered 6 yr 180
     
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    He’s not. He’s locked up 3/105. Are you really attempting to say that you think after this next contract he’s going to get an offer less than 3/55?
     
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    He has an opt out after year 1
     
  11. Wulaw Horn

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    Sure. And he won’t take it unless he has more money lined up. We’d going to do way better than the Astros offer. It’s basically already guaranteed.
    I meant locked in to at least that number in a worse case scenario for him.
     
  12. Major

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    Yes - and the Astros locked him up through his prime years only. That's what makes it a terrible offer. No one in their right mind would haven taken that offer. It capped his prime years at $30MM/yr while giving him nothing on the back end, which is the opposite of why anyone signs those kinds of deals.
     
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    Sorry - I didn't mean to single you out. There's just a ton of posts here theorizing why Correa will be miserable for maximizing his income like virtually every player in baseball and every other sport attempts to do.
     
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    It doesn’t really matter. It was the right decision with Pena in the wings. We still have to extend Tucker and Verlander to pay. I’m sure Correa will opt out and somebody will overpay him. Good for him. I no longer care and no other Astros fan should. If you want to spend crazy money do it on Ohtani, but fortunately we have the best FO in the major leagues save maybe the Dodgers. Of course, it’s pretty easy when you have no limits on how much money you can spend. They continue to have one of the best minor league systems, but is it because they are really great at drafting and trading or is it because they continue to load up with the best FAs every year?
     
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    It's easy to have a great minor league system when you can buy good/great players without having to trade your top prospects. It's the money that talks here.
     
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    I guess I think you're being a little dramatic about how "bad" the contract offer was. It was 32 mil/yr for 5 years. That's on the high end for players like him. Just because Correa didn't get an EXTREMELY player friendly deal for him doesn't mean it was an insanely bad contract offer that no one in their right mind would have taken. Other players of his caliber have taken similar or lesser deals.

    We will agree to disagree but Xander Bogaerts took an even cheaper offer at the same age of effectively $60 mil over 3 years. Jose Ramirez signed a 7yr $141 mil deal at age 29.

    Correa has been very injury prone and has missed about 240 games since 2016. He's not exactly a low risk signing. He did supposedly get a 10 year $275 mil offer from the Tigers but the AAV wasn't high enough for him. No one else really stepped up to make a very long term deal other than Detroit.

    If he took that 5 year deal then that would have put him at around 32 the same age A-Rod signed a 10 year deal with the Yankees. We both know Correa isn't A-Rod, but Springer just got a 6 year deal at 31 and he's been injury prone too. Semien was 31 when he got his 7 year deal. If Correa is still producing at 32 then he will get an excellent deal.

    Granted, Arenado doesn't "need" to opt out of his deal, but he will be almost 32 if he decides to do so and he would get a MASSIVE deal. Players in their early 30s will still get big contracts.

    It's fine if Correa wanted to move on from Houston, but he got a strong offer from them. I don't have an ill will for the guy, but I don't think the Astros were short changing him at all.
     
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    There seems to be a dispute on whether they didn't make it, they made it, but his Agent didn't pass it along or he's "forgetting" it was offered.

    In any event, I doubt he'll get a better deal this year than to simply not opt out of his crazy deal in Minnesota and watch the playoffs from the stands or from home. Apparently, watching the playoffs rather than participating in them isn't that big of a deal to him. That's OK. He has his MONEY to comfort him.

    But I don't think his idea of what he's worth matches reality yet. It certainly matches the craziness of some of his devoted, but unrealistic fans on this board who still think he's still worth 10 years and $300M plus, even though every metric says otherwise.
     
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  18. Major

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    Bogaerts got the option to be a free agent again at 29, which is an ideal time to cash in. Jose Ramirez wasn't a free agent - and wasn't going to be one for 2 more years, so he was locking in money and not having to risk free agency at 31.

    Better comparisons would be the actual SS that was a free agent this year at the same age - Corey Seager got $325MM. As it is, Correa got $35MM/yr for 3 years PLUS an opt-out after 1 yr to be a free agent at 28. It's waaaaay more valuable than the nonsense contract the Astros offered.
     
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    He is worth what a team will pay him.

    IMHO he's worth more than Seager.

    Corey got 10/ $325M- a bit older same injury history, same post season resume. Better hitter, weaker defender.

    Teams have proven over and over that someone will pay. He missed his window last year and fired his agent over it.

    I expect him to get at least 6 years and at least $30M AAV. And anything short of $200M the new team is thrilled.

    I think Baltimore and Phillies are most likely.
     
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    Both of those would make sense. I hope it’s Baltimore and he can be a pain in the ass of the Yanks for the next 6 or 7 years. Got nothing against the Phillies either wouldn’t mind seeing him there.
     

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