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The state of the republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. wekko368

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    Given that the argument President Biden used to cancel $10k in student loan debt could also be applied to cancelling $1.75 trillion in student loan debt, I think the Supreme Court would find it unconstitutional. When the SC ruled against the EPA, the reasoning was that a "decision of such magnitude and consequence rests with Congress itself, or an agency acting pursuant to a clear delegation from that representative body."

    I think that same reasoning could be applied to student loan debt cancellation.
     
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    You can't speak about the upcoming transition of power without acknowledging you lost the election.
     
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    I think everyone should be in agreement that any President acting beyond his authority would be a dictatorial action.

    And just because a President makes a single dictatorial action doesn't make him a dictator. However, if you condone said dictatorial action, I'd argue that you support dictators.
     
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    A president acting beyond his authority = dictatorial action.
     
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    But he hasn't acted outside his authority. There is a check in place if he has. Should congress pass legislation forbidding the selective reduction of a part of college loans for middle class Americans, he won't start a riot to try and hold on to his executive order.

    Nothing dictatorial about this.
     
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  6. DatRocketFan

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    That is such a reach.

    Who are u to judge if a president is acting beyond his authority, what r u even basing his action on? its just typical republican jargon when things don't go your way just btch and cry about socialism, communism and dictators.

    Biden did nothing wrong, he acted within his role as president, there is no law stating he can't use executive order to push his agenda. If folks thought he was in the wrong, the supreme court would declare his action unconstitutional, the house/senate would actually use their power to prevent his act of loan forgiveness from going through

    All i hear is btching and moaning of how unfair it is. similar to what u are doing.

    All i know is u "argue" that folks including me r in support of a dictator because i condone what u believe to b a dictatorial action, which it isn't.

    U literally r implying biden is a dictator but now using your mental gymnastics ability to pivot to folks just supporting dictators in general.

    Biden isn't a dictator, and he did not commit any dictatorial action when it comes to forgiving student loans. it's that simple.

    if nobody calls u out on your bs. U might actually convinced others that biden is a dictator if u repeat your sht enough.
     
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  7. wekko368

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    That's up to the Supreme Court to decide, and if the ruling against the EPA is any indication, the SC will rule against student loan cancellation.
     
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    Are you familiar with the Supreme Court's ruling against the EPA?

    Again, would you be interested in a tip jar wager?
     
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    There would need to be a case appealed that far and the court would have to agree to take the case.
     
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    Do you really think it won't go that far? There's $1.6 trillion in federal student loan debt.
     
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    I don't know and I'm not worried about it. Helping out the middle class like this program does, is a win for the Democrats.

    I don't see the executive order outside the scope of presidential powers.
     
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    Are you familiar w/ the recent Supreme Court ruling against the EPA?
     
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    Your sentence makes zero logical sense and is not true. Of course you can do that and it’s exactly what Trump did. I quoted his statement for f@cks sake.

    Did he admit to losing the election? No.
    Did he acknowledge the transition? Yes.

    It’s that simple.
     
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    Again, you can't acknowledge a transition of power without acknowledging you lost the election.

    Actions speak louder than words, and President Biden took office January 20, 2021.
     
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    Yes. I disagreed with it.
     
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    … by a landslide, no less.
     
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    All I know is aside weeko from gaslighting folks. Biden isn't a dictator who overreach his power with regards to student loans. Folks that like student loans relief that biden enacted aren't dictator supporters.

    Biden will surrender his power just like trump when his term(s) ends so weeko accusation of him being a dictator or acting like one is moot bc dictators don't surrender power.

    We can come back in a few years for your acknowledgement that biden isn't a dictator if u want.

    Kinda sad that in the land of the free supporting the act of helping the students get out of debt is akin to supporting dictators. The republican mindset is just too far gone from empathy and compassion for fellow Americans.
     
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    Regardless whether or not you agreed with it, based on the Supreme Court's reasoning for that decision, don't you think the Supreme Court would also find student loan cancellation to be unconstitutional?
     
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    You're the one gaslighting.

    And if you have such conviction in your belief, why are you unwilling to commemorate it with a tip jar wager?
     

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