These are the most empty words I've ever heard. You wouldn't be on your knees for Mr. Anti-woke culture warrior DeSantis. If a conservative sincerely cared about ending divisiveness they would be looking at Kinzinger, Cheney, Romney etc, GOP conservatives who want to remove the malignant tumor that is Trumpism and yes DeSantis is part of that malignant tumor.
You think I'm angry when I call DeSantis and/or Trump assholes or horrible human beings. I'm incredibly calm when I do so. You're not in Germany. Men shagging each other is not being discussed in nursery school, kindergarten, grade school or high school in the USA. It's not in any curriculum. It hasn't been being taught in schools. Also, CRT is not being taught in curriculums across the country. They may be an outlier here or there. Should High School students be taught about red lining or black soldiers being hosed after WW2 with the GI Bill (among other things)? Should a teacher have to be really careful about having a picture of their gay partner in the classroom and wary about answering a curious student's question about who that is?
I think it will probably be less than 5% difference as I think FL like the rest of America is very divided. I think DeSantis has too much of a war chest and agree with him or not is taking up a lot of air time. Agree Crist is a retread but so was Biden. I don’t think Crist has FL Democrats united like Biden did US and I don’t think FL democrats are strong enough. I wouldn’t mind being wrong and with Crist’s stronger line of attack the race may be interesting.
This has been discussed before but the language of the law is very vague and if a parent feels that a teacher who is gay discussing their relationship in any way or them just having a picture of their partner could be liable.
You have to understand who you are talking to. You can't change the mind of someone who aligns with a Governor who hates gays. He doesn't like them either, yet neither will admit it. Both take this teachers grooming kids BS to such an extreme. The groomers are the parents grooming their kids to grow up believing they are the superior race or that it's ok to discriminate and oppress those who you think you are superior to.
No it's not... this confusing stuff is actually in the bill In its preamble, the bill’s authors write that their aim is to prohibit “classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity.” But later, the actual bill states that “classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur.” You don't think some parents would complain about a gay teacher discussing their partner? You don't think it would make a gay teacher think twice about answering a question about their partner where there would be no hesitation on the part of a straight teacher?
If you interpret a picture of a gay couple as "classroom instruction on sexual orientation" (which would be an incorrect interpretation), then a picture of a straight couple would be "classroom instruction on sexual orientation" as well, just about a different sexual orientation. That's why this hypothetical example is a strawman. The bill doesn't mention gay or straight. It was dubbed "Don't say gay" bill in typical misinformation framing fashion from the left.
Still not a strawman. The problem is that a parent can object to things they feel are 'morally' wrong. The bill is poorly written. It's odd that someone like you who is afraid a 3 year old will be taught about men shagging men and that parents tell their children that they may be murdering ailing grandpa Sam if they don't wear a mask to school can't see the potential problems for those immoral married gay teachers.
They can object to whatever they want, now already, but this bill wouldn't give them legal recourse in the strawman scenario you describe. And again, the bill never mentions the word "gay" or singles out homosexuality. It just doesn't. That's purely framing from the left, which you have adopted.
The bill is intentionally vague. What do you think "classroom instruction on sexual orientation" means? Does reading a story that depicts two adults kissing count as "classroom instruction on sexual orientation"? Does your answer change depending on whether the adults are of the same sex or opposite sex? Does a teacher saying "my husband" count as "classroom instruction on sexual orientation"? Does your answer change depending on whether that teacher is a man or woman? Guess what, for many parents -- it would. And that's what schools care about, because they don't want to be sued. The bill could have been more specific to cover the problematic cases you're legitimately concerned about. But it was written the way it was to appeal to religious conservatives in your governor's base, while allowing him to claim deniability when accused of being homophobic.
Many if not most bills are vague. You cannot cover every detail in a bill, and you shouldn't. I can try to give you my interpretation. In the end, it might be up to the courts, if the bill is in effect. No. No. No, definitely not. No. So then many parents welcome that law. Guess what - that's how democracy works. If more voters than not come to the conclusion that this issue is so important to them that they will elect a different governor, the law will be changed. OK. You don't have to be a religious conservative to want to see parents' rights strengthened and to not want your children indoctrinated at an early age with woke ideology. Even transgender people themselves are saying that woke transgender activists have taken it too far nowadays.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/leake...s-into-lgbtq-clubs_4114896.html?welcomeuser=1 Leaked Audio Reveals How California Teachers Recruit Kids Into LGBT Clubs By Brad Jones November 20, 2021 Updated: August 11, 2022 teachers at a recent California Teachers Association (CTA) conference mocking parents over their concerns about homosexual and transgender indoctrination at school, says a source who attended the event in Palm Springs, Calif. The recording, obtained by The Epoch Times, captured two seventh-grade teachers employed by Buena Vista Middle School in Salinas, Calif., telling other teachers how to recruit students into LGBT clubs, also known as “Gay-Straight Alliance” (GSA) clubs, at school. “It was horrifying to listen to not just one teacher but really all of the teachers in all of these seminars, excoriating parents,” said the source, who goes by the pseudonym Rebecca Murphy. Murphy attended the teachers union conference in late October. She told The Epoch Times the teachers “mocked” parents for their concerns, and suggested they know better than parents about what’s best for their children. “They laughed at the parents,” Murphy said. The sold-out CTA conference, billed as the “2021 LGBTQ+ Issues Conference, Beyond the Binary: Identity & Imagining Possibilities,” was held Oct. 29 to 31. The CTA has hosted similar “Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity” (SOGI) professional development training for at least the last two years, according to an event notice posted on the United Teachers of Los Angeles (UTLA) website, which asks teachers: “Do you have the courage to create a safe environment that fosters bravery to explore sexual orientation, gender identity and expression?” However, according to Murphy, the conference in Palm Springs appeared to include teachers showing other teachers how to undermine the authority of parents and school administrators and conceal activities related to gender inclusion and sexual orientation from them. Teachers at the conference also suggested that parents who refuse to call their child by pronouns of the child’s choosing should be arrested and charged with child abuse, Murphy said. The three classes Murphy attended were designed to recruit middle school students to GSA clubs, she said. “The overarching theme of the classes that I attended were California teachers instructing other teachers on how to sneak in the LGBTQ+ curriculum in a manner that does not alert parents,” Murphy said. The two teachers from Buena Vista Middle School led a workshop called “How we run a ‘GSA’ in Conservative Communities,” and they described the obstacles they faced as activist teachers in concealing the activities of these clubs from parents. In the audio clip, one teacher advised other teachers who lead LGBT clubs to maintain an air of plausible deniability so they can play dumb if they are questioned by parents. “Because we are not official, we have no club rosters. We keep no records,” said the teacher, who is also an LGBT club leader. “In fact, sometimes we don’t really want to keep records because if parents get upset that their kids are coming? We’re like, ‘Yeah, I don’t know. Maybe they came?’ You know, we would never want a kid to get in trouble for attending if their parents are upset.” The other teacher backed up the first teacher, suggesting activist teachers disguise the nature of GSA clubs by calling them something less obvious. She provided an example of this deception, pointing out she avoided naming her LGBT club a GSA. Instead, she called it the “Equity Club” and later changed the name to the “You Be You” club. The teachers bragged about spying on students’ online searches and activity as well as eavesdropping on their conversations to identify and recruit sixth-grade students into these LGBT clubs whose membership rolls are kept hidden from parents. “We totally stalked what they were doing on Google,” one of the teachers said. Buena Vista Middle School falls under the jurisdiction of the Spreckels Union School District (SUSD). Another nearby district, Salinas Union High School District (SUHSD) has been a center of controversy over its mandatory ninth grade ethnic studies program, which teaches elements of critical race theory. SUSD Board President Steve McDougall, Superintendent Eric Tarallo, and school board members did not respond to Epoch Times inquiries about the leaked audio. Anti-Bullying Presentation The teachers also discussed a yearly anti-bullying presentation they provide to students, and they said LGBT issues were not the only topics they discussed. “We also covered religious differences, race, cultural backgrounds, family status poverty—everything that is listed in the Parents’ Rights handbook,” said one of the teachers. However, when the kids went home and talked to their parents about the presentation, the parents complained about the LGBT content. One of the teachers suggested a different strategy to avoid resistance from parents. “Next year, we’re going to do just a little mind-trick on our sixth graders. They were last to go through this presentation and the gender stuff was the last thing we talked about. So next year, they’ll be going first with this presentation and the gender stuff will be the first thing they hear about. Hopefully to mitigate, you know, these kind of responses, right?” she said. The teacher ridiculed a parent who complained she hadn’t planned on having a conversation about sexual orientation and gender identity issues with her middle-schooler but was pushed into it by the school. “I know, so sad, right? Sorry for you, you had to do something hard!” she told her audience. “Honestly, your 12-year-old probably knew all that, right?” When a principal “invited” another parent to enroll their child in a private school more aligned with the parent’s beliefs, the other teacher said, “we count that as a win.” Controlling Morning Announcements One of the teachers also spoke about how she controls morning announcements at the school. “That’s another type of strategy I can give you,” she said. “I’m the one who controls the messaging. Everybody says, ‘Oh … you’re so sweet, you volunteered to do that.’ Of course, I’m so sweet that I volunteered to do that, because then I control the information that goes out. And, for the first time this year, students have been allowed to put openly LGBT content into our morning announcement slides.” She went on to boast about the students she recruited to help with the announcements. “Three of the kids on the team, two of them are non-binary, and the other one is just very fluid in every way. She’s fabulous. So, it’s actually a nice group,” she said. The teacher pointed out more than once that she can’t be fired, and she thanked CTA for her tenure and for providing resources and tools. “You can’t fire me for running a GSA,” she said. “You can be mad, but you can’t fire me for it.” “CTA has made it very clear that they are devoted to human rights and equity,” she added. She told the teachers that she and the other teacher have acted with “great integrity.” “We never crossed a line,” she says. “We’ve wanted to, but we never have.” School Response After information about the leaked audio was made public this week, Supt. Tarallo, SUSD President McDougall and Kate Pagaran, the principal at Buena Vista Middle School, issued a letter Nov. 19 addressed to the “SUSD Community” that the “UBU (You Be You)” club has been suspended. “Any future student clubs will be required to submit an outline of all activities and materials before being allowed to meet,” the letter states. “Student sign-in sheets will be maintained and parent/guardian permission slips will be sent home prior to a club holding a meeting.” The letter states that “all messaging shared in the morning announcements” will be controlled and distributed by the principal, a practice that “will be in place permanently.” SUSD states clearly: “Teachers are prohibited from monitoring students’ online activity for any non-academic purpose.” SUSD will follow state-approved standards and curriculum on all presentations involving “sensitive themes such as sexuality” and “materials of any sensitive themes will be shared with parents/guardians before being shown to students,” the letter states.
Probably because of hurricanes. FL building codes are among the strictest in the US for the same reason.
