The GM would have to convince him. I also see a lot of new owners (not Jim Crane) as win now owners as well. Crane may not have been so on board with the total tear-down/rebuild without Luhnow helping to convince him. Or if it was all Crane's idea, he deserves more credit.
Most franchises do not need the kind of rebuild Houston did. The Rockies are really the only team I can think of that need the full Luhnow treatment.
The Angels seem like they’re in purgatory despite having two generational talents. They may not need a multi year rebuild, but they need something. Ditto the Rangers.
I think it is a very low bar for an owner that not one of his last three GMs he hired has convinced him to rebuild or fix player development. With Trout and Moreno's money, it shouldn't have even been that long of a rebuild if they acted sooner.
They really only have 2 options: 1) go full bore 3rd CBT level all in for 2023. Bring in 2+ more impact FA to get Trout and Ohtahni a legitimate chance at a ring - short term but could at least convince Ohtani to extend rather than leave. 2) trade at least one of Trout or Ohtani. The Soto+ return will set them up to be competitive and if done right won't be a band aid. Anything else is just status quo
Agree with the possibility of going all in, but blowing money on more impact guys is not the way to go. They need to get a bunch of solid 1-2 WAR guys. It’s the stars and scrubs approach with tons of negative value from the scrubs that’s killing them. If they kept their top end talent but replaced all the negative producers with solid positive guys, they’d be pretty fearsome.
Exactly. They signed Rendon who was the best 3B FA available on the market and he has been a total flop due to injury. Trout/Ohtani themselves are no guarantee to stay healthy. Others have said that's the way they can get better real fast if they fill their holes at SS and pitching with more high priced players.... but there will always be injuries and you need enough depth and cheap alternatives to sustain those rougher times. We know that set up rarely has worked. Maybe the 90's Florida Marlins had success that way... but still had some young developed players contributing (along with Eric Gregg calling balls/strikes).
I've never been able to truly hate this guy despite what he's done to the Stros, just a class act. This kid's sign says "Hey Albert, let's trade jerseys" or something similar. I wouldn't blame that kid for having his first spontaneous erection right then and there.
He is such a class act. Despite everything he's done to the Astros, you just have to respect him and appreciate that he is a generational player. I am rooting so hard for him to get to 700 career homers.
THREAD: There’s a lot to digest on Julio Rodríguez’s extension with Seattle, per ESPN sources. The deal could be for 8, 13, 16 or 18 years. It guarantees Rodriguez $210 million. If it maxes out, it will be the largest ever: $470 million. The details are important. Here they are. The base of the deal is for eight years and $120 million. It includes this season and runs through 2029. After 2028, the Mariners must decide whether to pick up a club option. The size and length of that depends on Rodriguez’s performance in MVP voting. The option is for eight or 10 years on top of the original deal. Depending on how Rodriguez fares in MVP voting — wins and finishes — it can range anywhere from $200-$350 million. If the Mariners pick up the option, Rodriguez’s guarantee in the deal is at least $320 million. Now, if the Mariners don’t pick up the option after Year 7, Rodriguez has a player option after Year 8 for five years and $90 million — thus, the 13-year structure and $210 million floor. He could turn it down and hit free agency right before his 30th birthday, too. The likeliest outcome? Julio Rodriguez is a Seattle Mariner through 2037 and makes at least $320 million. Probably much more. And if he turns into the monster that he shown he is in his rookie season, it could be the most financially lucrative deal in American sports history
Going to likely see more of these rookie-type deals every year (Franco last year, Tatis Jr. before). Its still a risk. Correa would have commanded at least this after his amazing rookie half-season but based on how that's now turned out 7 years later, can't say it would have paid off for the team. Franco is having a lackluster sophomore year. We all know Tatis will bounce back... but he's already got two major red flag violations in his very young career. But there is a likelihood that these are going to benefit both the player and the team... and I'm all for mid-market, non-mega market teams being able to hang onto guys for all their prime years and build up the fandom.
With Rodriguez and Glasnow getting extensions, I wonder if the Astros will try again with Tucker, and for how much...
Can't imagine Rodriguez and Glasnow getting extensions moves the need at all for either side (Tucker and the Astros FO). Sooo many things matter, like how much they're gonna price his 3 arb years at, how many FA years they buyout and at what price. Being a high schooler, he'll hit FA after his age 28 season. Basically anyone who would sign him would get his entire physical prime (and pay for it). Correa got $35m AAV in his age 27-29 seasons. Bregman is getting $28.5m for his first two FA seasons (ages 29/30). Actually a Bregman-like extension wouldn't be the craziest thing. 5 years/$100-110m. gets to go through FA again after his age 30 season.
What do you do when you're a multimillionaire and just love the game? THIS. You have fun as long as you can.
