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Some Serious Police Brutality in Arkansas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Aug 21, 2022.

  1. ROXRAN

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    should’ve joined the FBI instead where the means justify the ends.
     
  2. Rocket River

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    Nope. . .not even then
    Professionals should be REQUIRED to be Professional
    Honestly. . . I view Cops like I view PitBulls

    Most are probably ok . .. but there are alot of them that will go off in a heart beat
    Always be alert around them

    I would like all these officers tested for Steroids and other drugs

    Rocket River
     
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  3. ElPigto

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    I don't disagree with you one bit, however, there is always the human element to consider, which is the only reason I can find that being the only excuse.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    I get it.

    The whole homelessness issue in California begs the question of: what do you do with the homeless who don't want to be saved, don't want housing, and don't want rehab.

    Let's say the victim was the worst of free society. How does one rehab or reform them to escape outside that circle?

    If it's just a revolving door with the criminal justice system, then society quietly erodes away, and the best hope for the victim is a nice settlement from the State from recorded brutality.

    Police shouldn't have free reign for excessive force, but having them being the only responders to repeat offenders while reducing pay and hiring standards (ugly high profile career that smart people generally avoid) only creates more instances like these.
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Worcester sounds like a real winner but I’ll say the same thing I said about George Floyd it’s not LEO’s position to be meting out punishment . Once they have a suspect in custody there is a standard care that has to be met.

    Like so many other incidents this looks like it’s going to another case of LEO not being able to keep there emotions in check. My guess is the argument is going to be made that Worcester wasn’t complying so the LEO felt justified in escalating.
     
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  6. rocketsjudoka

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    This is why I don’t believe we should be defunding police but need more money both to hire more officers and to greatly increase training.
     
  7. Dr of Dunk

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    Yeah, I know where the first store is, and I know where that 2nd town where the actual beating took place is (that's about a 15-20 mile bicycle trip for that dude on the interstate... lol. Maybe he took the backroads.). I wonder if there was any on on-site security camera footage at the second site that would reveal what happened. In any case, with 3 cops there and the guy down, it looked like way excessive force. I'd just like to see if the dude tried to go after a cop or something, though.
     
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  8. Rocket River

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    When you job means you can literally kill people. . . .your margin of human Error is significantly less.

    People slip on blood all the time .. but having a knife slip out of his hands and kill a person . . . Unacceptable

    With Great Power comes Great Responsibilities!

    Rocket River
     
  9. Reeko

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    How is slamming his head on the pavement not obvious attempted murder?
     
  10. Dr of Dunk

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    My friend from Arkansas who lives near me is crawling under the covers right now since she probably knows half the people revolving around the event. LOL. A relative is the Mulberry police chief and she was a babysitter for one of the lawyers' husbands when they were young. She's like "I want out!" :D

    But anyway :

    More info is coming out, and, while I'm still not justifying it, I'd be a little irate, too, if this happened to me, assuming it's true. Or as Chris Rock once said, "I'm not saying I condone it... but I understand" :

    Attorney for deputies gives their side of Mulberry excessive force arrest

    Wood states that Worcester provided a false identity to the deputies.

    "While checking this false identity, the suspect became irate and viciously attacked deputy White by grabbing him by the legs, lifting him up and body slamming him, head first, on the concrete parking lot," according to the statement.

    Wood reports that White struck his head on the concrete and the suspect then got on top of Deputy White and began striking him in the back of the head and face. White was "incapacitated momentarily but remembers getting repeatedly hit in the head and then seeing the suspect fighting with Corporal King and the Mulberry officer."

    "Such a violent suspect cannot be allowed to remain unrestrained and all necessary force is authorized to arrest this type of violent suspect. The amount of force authorized under the law is always relative to the offense the suspect commits," Wood states.

    There is video from a dashboard-mounted camera from a Mulberry police car, Wood states.

    "I have requested release of the full Mulberry dash cam but have not received a response to my request. I understand that edited, video snippets are the new rage for social media and the news channels, but these deputies deserve the full truth to come out," Wood stated.
     
  11. bobrek

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    I'm assuming they don't have body cams
     
  12. Rocket River

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    . . .after they are able to edit and do their own snippets

    Rocket River
     
  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Looks like a case where he got a hit on them and they were trying to teach him a lesson. Don't F with us sort of thing where if you hurt one of us we're going to F you up.

    I feel like this is pretty common amongst any kind of group - police being no different. It's like bouncers at a nightclub. Whatever wrong someone did, the retaliation was much much worse if they made contact with any of the bouncers.
     
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    From what I understand, there were no bodycams but there was a police dashboard cam that supposedly shows what happened and how it started. I don't think from everything that I've read that video's been released yet.
     
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    Their version makes no sense. This isn’t The Rock, this isn’t a big man and there are three officers that appear to be in good physical shape.

    I am extremely skeptical that suddenly this guy picked up an officer and flipped him over and body slammed his head into the ground and then was able to successfully attack the other officer and injure him.

    This isn’t Bollywood or a bad 1970’s kung fu movie.

    If by some miracle that IS what happened, they all need to resign in shame because they let one homeless skinny guy do that to them.
     
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    "The amount of force authorized under the law is always relative to the offense the suspect commits," Wood states.


    BS. I don't care what a suspect's been accused of. You do not have the right as a police officer to deliver justice where you see fit.

    They should be charged and held accountable for their actions. The lawyer can **** off, too.
     
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    I'm skeptical too but I know first hand it is very possible for a smaller man to throw a much larger man (I would've quit Judo long ago if that wasn't the case.) This is very possible too if the LEO didn't have good balance while trying to restrain the suspect.

    My own view if even Worcestor was outrightly fighting with the LEO once he's restrained at that point he's a minimal threat. From the video it looks like Worcestor was already cuffed and while still struggling there's not much he can do to threaten the LEO when he get's his head slammed.

    I will also add again the training of LEO for being able to subdue suspects often seem lacking. We've seen that in the case with Rashard Brooks and in the other case where an LEO had the back of the a suspect and shot him rather than taking control.

    It would really help if they release the dash cam video.
     
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  18. Amiga

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    But Bruce Lee wasn't that big.

    Anyhow, we need a civilian driven investigative board to investigate police misconduct. Cops investigating Cops ... nope.
     
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  19. jiggyfly

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    Um why do you believe any of this?

    And why do you understand it, the cops are the professionals and nothing that guy did should make you understand them slamming his head in the concrete and kneeing him in the ribs.

    It's the cop's fault he let him get into his legs and body slam him, I was taught how to avoid getting into that situation as a caseworker, let alone the training a cop gets.

    How the hell did the other cops let this happen?

    So if this guy had a mental episode you can understand what they did?
     
  20. jiggyfly

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    Bouncers are not the same as policeman they are not trained and instructed to defuse situations or in self defense.

    I don't understand how you can equate the 2?
     

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