[OFFICIAL] [ROBERT REICH] Liz Cheney for President 2024 Thread

Yeah but when you work as a team as exclusive as the FBI and a specific case your team is going to be people with the same mindset pretty much I don’t think that’s out of the realm of possibilities and I think it’s a fair concern

 

Sure that’s possible but that can go to anything. I can claim the code official isn’t approving my building because he used to work for a firm that my firm beat out for a large project. He very well might be biased but if he can show that my building doesn’t meet code then I don’t really have an argument.

Let me ask you two questions:
1. What if there is absolutely proof such as statements that an LEO was biased against someone but that person did break the law and the LEO followed due process. Should that be grounds for dismissal?

2. were you concerned about reported bias against Hillary Clinton in the investigation of her server?

 

What we do know is Peter Strzok as the head of the Russian investigation and was dismissed by Mueller because of his inherent bias…So if someone has a bias against the leader of a political party what are the chances that they would be favorable towards the leader of the other political party? This is NOT conspiracy BS …it’s common sense concern and so now you have this FBI with residue of such failure as in charge of impartial investigation? …You bring up a lot of points about Trump and his behavior but I also question the sources and I think it’s completely rational to question the investigators based on the recent past and their failings. Peter is gone and rightfully so but this tainted the federal investigation systemic process more than you realize…The American people simply lost trust and I don’t think the left understands how far the magnitude is based on how the government has failed us from the department of justice side of things

 

The left cares about actual issues with our law enforcement system where the damage is done to the powerless. You'll never b**** about that but carry water for a billionaire cult leader who couldn't give two ***** about you.

 

On point 2. I would be however Peter Strzok was The lead investigator on the Hillary Clinton case and we know how he felt about Trump and his uncontrollable bias …It would not be a miss to conclude someone in that regard would be just as much pro-Hillary Clinton if he allowed his bias to come to light as easily as he did…On point one I don’t know how I feel about that but I do know how the FBI feels about that and how Mueller feels about that

 

Lmao cult leader.
Trump is no cult leader no one will cry for him once he’s gone and out of the picture we will go next man up just as I said before but yes we do care about partiality in fairness

 

Yes cult leader.

 

Bro I see more Trump signs, hats, number stickers etc in Massachusetts than all of the Democrat politicians' paraphernalia combined. He is a cult of personality. Trump supporters are often even confused how Biden could win when they don't see anyone wearing Biden hats. They worship Trump.

 

Peter Strzok isn't doing any investigating here. He was properly removed from the investigation he was a part of. That was years ago.

The head of the FBI was a Trump appointee. Any bias would seemingly be in Trump's favor.

The witnesses all testified under oath. They were part of Trump's staff. They were all Trump loyalists.

Not only are they not likely to have biases against Trump, they definitely wouldn't seemingly have enough bias to commit perjury. Also much of their testimony is corroborated with physical notes, memos, and phone records as well as corroborating witnesses.

None of these people are folks that a bias against Trump.

 

Massachusetts eh? Do you recommend Boston as a tourist spot? Boston intrigues me…Fenway Park, historic places, .l hope to visit one day

 

It's fine for a day trip if you care about historic sites, some European style city structure and rowdy Irish pubs. If you are over 30, the BU area and Cambridge probably aren't scenes you'll like as the bars and night life are catered towards 21-25 year old liberal college kids.

 

I agree he was removed ..,and that was proper…My concern is the systemic process in the FBI which allowed political bias in investigations to become so toxic that it involved unprecedented disciplinary action against a top lead agent. If he could be so corrupted in acts of bias that it would warrant Mueller taking action in his investigation then How far down the rabbit hole does the hole go? ….
How did the lead investigator of Hillary Clinton also on August 2015 and texted "God Hillary should win 100,000,000 - 0" …you think that agent would do anything to Clinton beyond saying she’s innocent ? And yes you may say it’s years ago but really it’s not that far off and he’s gone you may say but what was his influence? Remember He was the Deputy Assistant Director of the FBI's Counterintelligence Division. I think it’s completely reasonable for a large segment of the population to question the carryover effect …To see the investigation of Trump and connect the dots it’s not unwarranted

 

No...


You think every law enforcement position in this country is filled with apolitical humans who have no opinions about politics?

Does a cop who has private messages showing support of Donald Trump have the ability and authority to pull over a vehicle that has a Biden sticker on it? Should a cop that has said mean things about Trump in his personal life in personal messages not have the authority to pull over someone with a Trump sticker?

Are you serious? Your entire basis of corruption here is private citizens displaying their opinions in their private lives about their private political opinions?

 

It was also enough of a concern for his dismissal so yes …And I understand everyone can have a certain political view in their private life but you can’t send volatility texts such as insurance policy against Trump, etc …It’s not about having a political persuasion it’s about exposing your bias so openly and irresponsibly

 

AFTER it wasnt a sustainable situation due to right wing bubbles media successfully sticking the narrative landing.

I guess you can call it....


Cancel culture?

 

FBI agents can absolutely like or dislike particular politicians and still be professional enough to carry out their jobs.

If that wasn't true, there would be no way to have enough agents to work cases.

The judge and head of the FBI were both Trump appointees. Yet, they are trusted to conduct investigations and not squash ones that might implicate Trump.

FBI agents can like or dislike politicians and still be professional enough to do their jobs. It's insulting to presume otherwise.

If you or anyone else has evidence that anyone involved in the investigation has allowed biases to interfere with the investigation, please provide it. So far I've seen nothing to indicate that was the case.

But I will definitely look at evidence if it's provided.

 

Or the texts simply disclosed the ugly nature of systemic political bias within the DOJ…Page asking for reassurance that Trump wouldn’t become president, and Strzok replying with “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.”

Given his position and influence within the FBI, those are chilling words. How easy would it be to simply not comment and not text but he could not contain himself and that’s unfortunate

 

And yet he was dismissed by Mueller and subsequently fired

 

Show me the explicit actions he took that would show bias. Show the investigation work that shows bias. Don't show me more biased text messages showing they don't like Trump.

 

So if a cop says he hates Black people and investigates a criminal who is black then everything is fine? No I don’t think it is and then you have to realize this is part of the systemic problem of the FBI when they allow attitudes to be unchecked it doesn’t matter if there’s no explicit action because having an attitude that is predetermined against someone shows that they can be impartial from the start