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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. Nook

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    Agreed, and we have to realize that people are different in general. Not all Muslims are the same and we as people also change our mind when we are exposed to different things. When someone says something sensational it gets a lot of attention.... so a college professor that has been in the USA says that someone that insults the Prophet should be murdered, it gets attention. The thousands of people that come from Islamic centered countries and governments that move to the West and are exposed to different ways of life and thought, that then become atheist or agnostic or even are not ruled by the rules of Islam are seldom discussed.... but that is most people.
     
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    I found this quote and a picture of you I guess?

    "Almost too well endowed. I've had complaints. Literally."

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    But you are aware that we are then comparing apples and oranges. The mainstream of the most moderate faction of one religion (Islam) in the world to the fringe of probably the most fundamentalist faction of another religion (Christianity).
     
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    I shall take the a$$ whoopin every time :D
     
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    There other sects in that poll that poll worse than Evangelical Christians like Mormons. Evangelical Christianity is also one of the most popular sects in the US.

    Also, I'm sure you've heard of the concept of "hierarchy of needs". The more they are satisfied the more a human is allowed time to introspect and become more empathic of things outside their norms. It's part of the reason we have this phenomenon of "woke white college educated" humans. Their lifestyles are relatively more comfortable so their hierarchy of needs are met and therefore have the capacity to eventually start being more introspective and thoughtful and therefore will hold more empathic beliefs of "tribes" and systems that are outside the traditional sphere.


    So when you compare a sect of American Christians to Muslims overall, American Christians have loved in a more stable society for multiple centuries now where their hierarchy of needs are met more often than most Muslims in more underdeveloped nations or war torn nations.
     
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    Mormons seem pretty peaceful to me.
     
  8. Ubiquitin

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    I have never met a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (aka Mormons) that I didn't like. They're collectively very wholesome. Between green jello and skirting with drive through soda shops, Utah is a land unlike anywhere else in the US.
     
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    Oh, totally agree. I have no desire to go to countries where their governments do those horrific things to women, or turn a blind eye to it.
     
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  11. larsv8

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    +1 on Mormons

    I had a cadre of them, 3-4 families, 3-5 kids in my high school social circle.

    Very loving, accepting people. Never seemed to fight, no drama, fun loving people.

    5 stars, would recommend.
     
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    This is where the radical right GOP politicians are starting to cross that line by forcing young rape victims to go through childbirth and endure trauma a second time. The sad part is that they have no intent on supporting that mother and child with healthcare or anything else they may need after the fact.
     
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    They may be against certain things, but they keep it to themselves and don't go ranting and raving.
     
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    Yes the issues of political Islam are far more severe than those of political Christianity today - there is no doubt about that. But I wonder how much of that will be temporary vs lasting. I no longer have the confidence I once did that our liberties and ability to separate religion from gov't will stand the testament of time judging from recent events. The things I am seeing I'd never once imagined - and yes while compared to other places in the world it's relatively minor, it's still rather alarming that it's happening here at all.

    The west is supposedly the standard of civil liberties and a definition of what a civilized democracy should look like.

    It does not bode well for humanity's future.
     
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    In the US and places like Hungry and Russia, political Christianity is a bigger threat.

    But yes, in most of Asia and Africa, political Islam is the larger threat.
     
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    and Europe
     
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    There is an answer the obvious one stop practicing religion.

    Thankfully as we progress as a nation to be more educated the number of people who follow a faith has declined.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/religio...-u-s-adults-are-now-religiously-unaffiliated/

    This will continue and as it does it will relieve society of one of the most caustic problems that continues to plague us. Religion divides people and where there is division there is often strife. We may not be able to remove race but we can remove religion and have one less factor separating people from embracing their commonality as humans.
     
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    They are now, but they were not always.

    It was only 120 years ago that the Mormon's slaughtered 120 people in the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

    The Mormons were at war with the USA and they even invoked martial law.

    The founders of Mormonism were not very peaceful either.

    I would agree with you now that violent crime in the USA by Mormons are rare, a lot of it is that they have become very internalized and the Church learned not to cross the US government or they would no longer exist.
     
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