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Breaking: FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    If it was the judge you are referring to, he was appointed by Trump. The idea that he hung out with Epstein only makes it more likely he would act favorably towards Trump since Trump was a good pal of Epstein's.

    None of that means he wasn't qualified to sign off on the warrant. The warrant was obviously justified, since they found exactly what they were searching for.

    Very professional and well done by the DOJ.
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    The DOJ never shares affidavits until indictment, ****ing idiots falling for that nonsense.

    DD
     
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    Also because they said it was related to an investigation that could be because Trump or someone at Mar-a-Lago is being investigated and or giving information related to an investigation.

    That doesn't mean that it's Trump. It could be any number of people. It could be Trump. It could be Trump, Eastman, Ron Johnson, Jordan, Mark Meadows, Rudy Giuliani, and others as well.

    There are so many possibilities that it is pointless to guess. But what is certain is that none of it is good for Trump and his presidency.
     
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    It’s funny how desperately trumpers want to know the identity of the affiant (trumpers - that’s the person who signed the affidavit in support of the search warrant).

    How much ketchup has Mar a lago staff cleaned off the walls in the last week?
     
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    It's funny, but predictable. The reason why his supporters want the names so bad is so they can figure out some way to convincing themselves that it's really a deep state actor, and it's all a big scheme to get poor ole Donny. That's all it is... it's like Harden fans wanting to know what injuries he had in the playoffs to excuse his poor play. It's a form of fan therapy....

    .... that and of course there are many of them who are clearly radicalized, and want those involved to be at the least threatened violently because they know how terrorism works. Violence or threats of violence can change behaviors. It's also that simple to those who are radicalized and boy.... there are ALOT of radicalized Republicans in this country although fortunately most of them are cowards.
     
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  7. bobrek

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    Define 'huge' in the context you used it.

    Bruce Reinhart, a Florida federal magistrate judge, donated $1,000 to Obama's 2008 presidential campaign and added $1,000 more to the Obama Victory Fund that same cycle, according to federal filings.

    Isn't $2000 pocket change to you?
     
  8. jiggyfly

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    Do you not understand the difference between a banned book and a book being removed from a reading list?

    Overbearing rules and turning in your neighbors is currently the hottest thing in Red states just look at the abortion laws, Texas has monetarily incentivized turning in your neighbor, nothing like that has happened in Calif.

    DeSantis has been a beacon of freedom, DA ****?
     
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  10. jiggyfly

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    WTF?

    Where are you getting that we are seeing aggression and psychopathy in mass in the Boomer generation?
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Oh boy that's a multiple decades' worth of observations of my personal life and media that I'm not sure one comment can articulate.

    Maybe that observation of mine is as reactionary as a hooker saying that millennials and gen zers are more lazy and entitled. But leaded gasoline between the 50s-80s being prolific in the air and scientifically has shown that it can cause brain damage that can lead to aggression and psychopathy is a real thing.
     
  12. jiggyfly

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    Why do you only think of 2 things?

    Why do you ignore that Boomers are responsible for maybe the biggest leap in technology in the history of the world?

    Baby Boomer Inventions That Changed the World
    • The scanning tunneling microscope. ...
    • DNA fingerprinting. ...
    • The Jarvik 7 implantable artificial heart. ...
    • Bacterial cement. ...
    • The Apple II. ...
    • Viagra. ...
    • The World Wide Web. ...
    • The ambulatory infusion pump
    Just look at Boomers impact on the entertainment field.

    I am not even a Boomer, but this slander is off the charts.

    Just when I think society has a chance to get better, I realize we will still always blame and demonize a group we are not a part of.
     
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    I'll admit that's a new one for me too. In my experience with the boomer gen, they seem a bit entitled as a whole, but I don't really have as much consensus on them as a whole on things like politics. It's more about their subcultures and clinginess to their identities. Christian Nationalism/White Evangelicalism being the most prevalent where it courts white Boomer aged people, and truly removes the ability to process logic, and creates a fantasy island. However it also seems to breed cowardice. Most in this generation that are in this movement are also cowards in my experience, and they are drawn to being very very afraid all the time which is why the Evangelical (THE RAPTURE IS COMING!!) churches are such a draw.

    The truly dangerous people in the MAGA movement (and like with all extremist terrorist movements) is with the courted younger men who are in a period of their lives where they feel lost, and can't control their testosterone, and feel like they have nothing to lose. It's why the FBI watches the Proud Boys, and keeps track of places like 4chan. I think they are most fearful of guys who just got out of the military who get radicalized by Qanon like web groups, and take action.

    The FBI isn't really afraid of a bunch of Boomer Christian empty nesters who post memes about Nancy Pelosi getting assasinated, and then go drop 1,000 dollars at Market Square in the Woodlands, and drink 2 bottles of wine to put themselves to sleep with FoxNews on in the background. They are looking for the 23 year old guy who lives by himself, has an arsenal of weapons, just lost his job, obsesses online about the Turner Diaries, posts online about how Hitler was right, and is taking testosterone supplements he buys from Alex Jones, etc. etc.
     
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  14. fchowd0311

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    It's a core nature of humanity. Other animal species have also shown this "younger gen vs older gen" clash. At the end of the day, when there exists the concept and reality of "scarcity of resources", this zero sum tribalistic attitude will always persist.
     
  15. jiggyfly

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    Why do you keep using your personal life and the finite amount of people you have encountered and say that's the way everything and everyone is?


    What in the media has shown that Boomers have more aggression and psychopathy than any other group.

    Most of the latest mass shooters have been millennials or Gen z's and that seems to be only rising.
     
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    Psychopathy when it comes to work culture and identities.
     
  17. jiggyfly

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    I was not talking about younger vs older that's really not an issue that's threatening civil society, it's the groups that we self identify with and then demonize anybody that does not belong to groups I belong to.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Well that is also a culprit if basic human instincts of seeing the world as a "zero sum game" due to scarcity of resources. Human progress has always been an attempt at supressing that base instinct while also trying to solve the "scarcity of resources" dilemma through science and economics.
     
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    You are discounting what a cluster duck the 60s and earlier 70s were. I had three uncles drafted into a war. JFK and MLK were assassinated. College students were shot and killed. Protesters were beat at the democratic convention. Civil rights activists were killed. Etc.

    If any generation had if easy, it was Gen X. And some of the guys I grew up with are the most rabid republicans I know. Look at the people invading the Capitol. They weren’t in their 70s.
     
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    I just need to correct the record here. Judge Reinhart, who issued the warrant for the Mar-a-Lago search, was appointed Magistrate Judge in 2018, but not by Trump. Magistrate Judges are appointed by District Judges. I don't know who appointed Reinhart, but he serves in the Southern District of Florida and the Chief Judge there in 2018 was Kevin Moore who was nominated by Bush Sr in 1991 (Trump had intended to nominate him Chair of the United States Sentencing Commission in August 2020 but it seems to not have happened). Magistrate judges do not preside over trials but do other functions like issuing warrants. It is possible (in my mind, but what do I know) that given the high stakes here, Reinhart was actually advised by a more senior judge appointed by a president.

    But Southern District of Florida seems to lean fairly conservative. The Chief Judge now is Cuban-American Cecilia M. Altonaga, appointed by GWB and even considered on the long list for SCOTUS by GWB. Of the current presidentially-appointed judges now serving there, 9 were nominated by Democratic presidents and 13 by Republican presidents.

    All that to say that the court is not a creature of Trump (though he did appoint 5 of them), but it's definitely not some hotbed of progressive activism either. These are generally non-political, conservative-leaning professional judges. And, when you look at the organization, you see Judge Reinhart himself is a fairly little fish. He's on an 8 year term doing the ordinarily unglamorous work of maintaining the court's plumbing. He definitely doesn't deserve anyone's ire for abusing the power of his office to wreck his own political influence. He's too small to have any such power. So, Reinhart was not appointed by Trump, but knowing all this about that District Court, it is very unlikely that he or the District Court are part of some Democratic conspiracy to just get Trump.
     

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