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Breaking: FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. ROXRAN

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    Yes I did and I mentioned that if you paid attention lol. What we know is it appears Trump is either coordinating super slow or refusing one of those is true but there’s no verifiable fact which way or the other so the question is what response should be done if he’s just moving slow then I don’t think the raid is appropriate,… Yes having said that at some point if he’s just not budging with coordination of the preservation of records then yes you have to go beyond that at some point not sure if I am contradicting myself but at the same time my hope is if he’s moving slow on processing these records then at least there’s progress but if he’s just not getting anywhere then that’s where the line is
     
  2. Reeko

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    ignore that the 1st guy’s teeth are the color of Homer Simpson

    it’s obvious what would happen

    all these commander Bubba’s and admiral Cletus’ can’t wait to resort to violence like the mindless drones that they are

     
  3. deb4rockets

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    It wouldn't be that hard to arrest people posting dangerous threats on social media. Hopefully these types end up locked up. There's enough violence in this heavily armed country already. Politicians inciting these types out of allegiance to Trump is a dangerous and radical move. Trump molded the GOP into this.
     
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  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    He broke the law, he didn't turn over the documents, the law in which he himself signed AND PROSECUTED that whistleblower as well.....

    Trump is not above the law, doesn't matter what you think, or what I think he will get his day of reckoning....and I will bet you that he pays the price....

    But still people will try to apologize.....TRUMP IS NOT, nor has he EVER BEEN - a victim.

    DD
     
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  5. ROXRAN

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    I have 30,000 rounds of ammo and multiple AR15 type rifles including semi armor piercing and incendiary all in a safe room just in case of…zombies …But the best things we can do if we’re not happy with things we see is the vote. That goes for whichever side of the political spectrum. Those messages with threats do not help. It’s in our best interest to work together and embrace differences.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    JESUS the FBI can arrest tons off of this thread alone.

    DD
     
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  7. deb4rockets

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    This!
     
  8. deb4rockets

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    Agree!
     
  9. deb4rockets

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    True. I was a paying member for years until this year. I won't pay to get harassed in a forum that isn't moderated to stop it.
     
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  10. ROXRAN

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    NARA, the national archives allows for a coordinated agreement on records first off, so this very fact does not imply a crime …
    however he cannot refuse to work with the national archives on the preservation of records…records could be something as simple as a reminder note hand written with a sharpie and have to be included or as complex as classified information it’s all lumped in required preservation…

    Trump could very well be a victim. I understand you hate him with every fiber of your bone and I’m not completely a fan of course I prefer a republican over a democrat any day of the week, That’s just my feeling and I am entitled to that.
    There is information I don’t know and you don’t know about the extent of the agreement between the archives and the former president…But we do agree if it’s taken this long it’s probably been too long we just don’t know if he’s negotiating slow about the records or refusing or being obtuse…
    @FranchiseBlade being a top debater brings up some really good points to counter why Trump is not a victim as well.
    Trumps problem is he wants to negotiate everything and it could very well be he’s moving too slow for his own good with regards to the national archives and having an agreement on the preservation of records…At the same time I can’t help but wonder giving the FBI’s failings and the bad optics, that Trump is getting a biased shakedown that’s just my feeling I can’t be convinced otherwise. However if he is refusing to work with the national archives and that is a possibility but we don’t know for certain then of course this is all warranted even though the optics may look bad
     
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    so what if the informant says there are national security documents that trump kept and appears unwilling to turn over bc he was given the chance? What if they are launch codes, or strategic military information? Are they supposed to say pretty please? That we know what you know?

    Fundamentally, it is beyond reason to suggest that trump should have been extended more of a runway. He was given every chance and didn’t comply. Willfully. Thumbed his nose. Show me where Obama did that in response to a subpoena.

    The fact that your reaction is to play the whataboutism card is telling.
     
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  12. rocketsjudoka

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    As stated before Trump can address all of these himself. He doesn’t have to wait for DOJ to release the warrant.
     
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    Considering those red necks are likely driving 1988 chevys and those stock engines will overheat before they make it to Beaumont from Vidor… I’m not too worried.
     
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    Bubba comes equipped with a bus pass tho…they’ll reach their destination eventually
     
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    I posted this in another thread but in the event of zombies I’m getting earth moving equipment and digging trenches. Why try to shoot them individually in the head when you could
    Just trap and crush them hundreds at the time.
     
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  16. ROXRAN

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    I’m not sure what you mean by “telling”
    I hate the whataboutism card as much as everyone, But in today’s climate we see that often being the case as a litmus test for fair conduct and precedence. It’s a fair and understandable situation to ascertain bias when we compare aspects of similar situations…

    As a matter of fact I stated that Obama obviously worked with the national archives on how records were preserved or handled…From Trumps perspective he felt he was doing the same thing. What we don’t know is the extent of the coordinated efforts and why there was a breakdown. Yes I do agree with you that Trump is taking way too long and there was no need to extend the runway but if he was working with the national archives I don’t think the raid response was appropriate…However if he told NARA to kick sand thats a different story but we just don’t know and I don’t think we will unless we’re privy to government discussions
     
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    I knew you were smarter than me, I’m stuck in antiquated methodology
     
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    There’s no bus in Vidor
     
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    not sure I'd be worrying about launch codes from 2020
     

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