I don't know if the first impeachment happens without the dossier but given that the main impetus for the first impeachment was the call with Ukraine and not he Steele Dossier I think it likely still does. The second impeachment was about the events of Jan. 6 which was totally unrelated. Also to note the second impeachment happened after the election and certification of the Electors. So no we wouldn't have a different President if Trump wasn't impeached a second time. The Steele Dossier was very salacious and got a lot of attention but overall for the Trump Presidency it was minor.
Sure it played a role just not nearly as much of a role that many are making it out to be. Late night Comedians like Stephen Colbert were obsessed about it because of "pee pee tape" and attention grabbing things like that made it seem much more important than it was. If you read the whole Mueller report it really doesn't mention much of it. Further given the events supposedly in the Steele Dossier happened well before Trump was President and both impeachments were based on events that happened as President the Dossier had no direct bearing on those impeachments.
Fair enough and good post. I just think everything snow balled after the dossier leading to impeachment.
Again... no. The impeachment was about the call with the Ukraine president where he pressured him to act on his behalf in a disinformation campaign against Biden while Trump was holding back military aid. Bombs for dirt. You MUST really know this, but for some reason you keep on keeping on. Had NOTHING to do with the Dossier which was a collection of rumors from Russian sources about Trump. That intelligence (very fine line between intelligence and rumors IMO) then was investigated mostly by journalists, and the FBI had a probe started in regards to Papadopoulos that some of this fell under. Some of the details proved to be true after investigation: Like Trump Tower Moscow Some of the details proved to be kind of true, but the details were not accurate: ALA there was no proven Pee Tape from the room that Obama previously stayed in, but there was journalist evidence that shows that that Trump did stay in that room, but the urination sex act was from another instance with the Russian singer where Trump and him were in Vegas where adult film stars were simulating sex acts including urination or what they call... well I won't say it here. So no... not accurate, and it continues to be frustrating that you keep on repeating this line about the Dossier having something to do with the Dossier, and your conflation about what a Dossier is vs what evidence actually is after rumors/intelligence is then investigated properly to find out the facts. BUT... THE FACTS in regards to Trump/Russia absolutely suck for America. Any other candidate wouldn't be able to sniff the oval office with his baggage, but for some reason his followers will put up with damn near anything.
More on the Dossier's accuracy in regards to Rumors/intelligence vs the facts.... which still aren't flattering to say the least. https://slate.com/news-and-politics...l-isikoff-on-their-las-vegas-revelations.html This shows both the importance of the Dossier in that there obviously is horrible things in Trump's past that should be investigated to make sure he's fit to serve as President, and also helps show how the right wing uses it as a way to diminish the facts that came out of investigating the claims. It's a tactic being used to shield Trump by both the right wing media with people like Astrodome carrying their water on the ground level on internet forums. Pretty messed up.
Manafort admits giving Russian intelligence officer confidential data. https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-trump...lIXa1c21zUbbxR3gMDGJKVAj4FXBUHz3MFt5zvpZnUdU7 But also do you guys know who John Durham is?
How was it not minor? Other than conservatives obsessing about it, and liberals laughing at the possibility of a pee tape existing, it was mostly irrelevant.
The thing that riled up Cons with the Durham(?*) Report was the Mueller warrants for wiretaps were initially based off the Steele Dossier as probable cause. This was compounded when one of the people filing the warrants was a Hillary supporter (Sussman) and lied in the warrant extensions when presumably nothing else turned up as a justifiable reason for keeping wiretaps. At best for Cons, it's tainted fruit yet those plea deals and convictions indicate otherwise. None of this really ties into the impeachment proceedings as Barr essentially buried the Mueller Report findings and the trial was mainly about Trump using American funds in a quid pro quo arrangement with a foreign state to bury a political rival. A bit of a mixup there. *could've been the other Trump appointed Special Councel named John
If the GOP wasn't so full of sycophants and cowards, they had 2 chances to impeach that conman and failed....they need a party reset. DD
not for trump, not for the country. the Steele dossier is the ur text from which all further lies flowed.
Another republican is into child p*rnography. The GOP sure can pick em. https://www.abc27.com/local-news/pa-state-senator-charged-for-child-p*rnography/ DD
Trump campaign was caught sending and receiving information to Russian backed associates. Why can't you just accept that?
Because he has no honor....people with REAL INTEGRITY and HONOR will admit they ****ED UP, and try to do a better job next time. But some of the GOP folks just can't admit it, they are the dregs of our society. DD
"Russian back associates" means working for the interests of the Kremlin. Which idiot thought it was a good idea to hire a bunch of globalists with Eastern European ties? How is this a good move by a presidential campaign?
Manafort was the campaign chair. The person he gave the confidential records to was a Russian intelligence officer. Not just "Russian backed" This is from the article already linked. Also you still haven't learned what an intelligence Dossier actually is. You keep talking about it in a way making it clear you either don't understand what it is or refuse to.
