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What it means to be “woke”

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Apr 19, 2022.

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    She likes basketball courts and super glue and doesn't like chicken
     
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    How many conservatives / libertarians do you think believed it to be real? We know many of the above did.

    I don't know which is worse, the fact that the guy is mocking racial equality, or that the people who read his tweets actually believed that someone would segregate their restaurant in the name of racial equality!
     
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    When you think you can smoke weed in communists countries like it was California or Denver then you get thrown in jail where everyone is white
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    When you go into the wormen’s locker room and let it hang out and tell those girls you can’t beat me in swimming
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    NBA: Bill Russell: 'Tell those NFL players, I'm with them' (espn.com)


    Earlier in his career, on Oct. 17, 1961, when the Celtics were in Lexington, Kentucky, to play an exhibition game against the St. Louis Hawks, Russell's teammate Sam Jones was denied service in the café at the Phoenix Hotel, where the team was staying. One year earlier in an exhibition game in North Carolina, Boston's African-American players had experienced the same indignity, and while they agreed to play in the game, Russell warned coach Red Auerbach he couldn't -- and wouldn't -- overlook such treatment again if it occurred.

    When Jones was turned away in Lexington, Russell called the airlines and informed Auerbach that he, Jones, Satch Sanders and K.C. Jones would be flying back to Boston without playing in the exhibition game. The decision caused a firestorm of controversy and criticism, although the players received staunch support from both Auerbach and owner Walter Brown.

    Russell was also an outspoken critic of the NBA's racial quotas in the '50s and early-'60s, when teams agreed to an unspoken agreement to limit the number of African-Americans to three to a team. It was Russell who publicly called out NBA commissioner Walter Kennedy for that practice.

    "If you don't, nothing changes,'' he said.

     
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    Beating up girls is ok when you are dude
    This is woke
     
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    Your video shows a "reportedly chokes" headline but has a title indicating that the allegation is confirmed.

    It appears that the accused denies that an assault took place. Isn't the college campus recent trend of always believing the accuser must be telling the full truth and assuming the accused is guilty an example of illiberal wokism run amok? Maybe we should wait for evidence before rushing to judgment, as the anti-wokesters scrupulously will remind us to do when the accused is a white, gender-conforming man.
     
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    https://www.fox44news.com/news/what...kicked-out-of-camp-after-alleged-assault/amp/

    Ranger College also issued a brief statement on the matter, which reads, “Ranger College takes all allegations of this nature seriously and is committed to providing a learning environment free from discrimination. At this time, Ranger College is following all applicable Title IX regulations and Board Policies.”

    They also declined to give any further information for an interivew.

    The only other documentation on the alleged assault, which once again, does state Averie was cited for Assault by Physical Contact by the Ranger Police Department on July 22 at 4:30 a.m.
     
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    More proof that transgender people should be banned since clearly they are violent and will likely choke your gf.
     
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    I don’t think sweets understands this… There are trans people that are clearly not woke ..there are good people on the left side that are not woke..
    You have to look at the distinction between the distinction. How do champion woke defenders process this fact? This shatters their all or nothing mindset and I love it

    ^ Does not agree with Lia Thomas nonsense and makes valid points !
     
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    I’m glad you posted that - another example of someone on the left that isn’t woke - sweets faints again …
     
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    When we (or at least I) call out woke nonsense it’s not me blanket labeling the left ideology or trans people because we have examples of those I just mentioned that are all on the same side against woke nonsense- this is refreshing tbh that we can unite together like that and I think if we do that we can come to a better understanding between each other… To me it’s not to weaponize terminologies against people in a blanket statement but to be united against nonsense… We have to look at the distinction between the distinction… we may differ politically but someone like Blair White who I actually admire, I think she’s beautiful and respect is someone I can relate to because we can be on different sides of the political spectrum but still call out the nonsense.

    If we call out the woke nonsense, we can find a way to find common ground in this crazy country and find something that unites rather than divides us… I hate to break the woke defender’s hearts because we have a couple on here at least evidently- it has to hurt I imagine when you feel internally betrayed but Instead take the opportunity to realize being woke is simply nonsense and let’s draw the line and we can be on the other side of the line together
     
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    The original purpose of this thread was to discuss what exactly it means to be “woke”, but I see that it’s once again being thrown around as an insult for people on the left who are vaguely too extreme politically. I’d like to return to talking about what specifically “woke” means.

    Is it, by definition, a bad thing, or is it good to be “woke” to some extent but there’s a line somewhere that shouldn’t be crossed? If it’s the latter, what is that line?
     
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    This guy is spot on - Love it !
     
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    Woke is an ideologue that is a non sense driven process due to needless action or activity that is not in consideration of all affected parties- simply that. You may not answer this I’m certain but have you watched the video of Blair White? This is a specific example of someone who is trans who is also not on board the woke platform… She completely destroys the Lia Thomas argument and everything involved with it - And the best part is who she is has some kind of significance as well…

    I understand that there may be some who have a hard time finding how some on the left (especially those who believe in the merits of woke ideology) can process a non op trans woman being against woke non sense - But it’s a fact from Bill Maher to Dave Chappell to trans women - these aren’t exactly republicans and yet here we are where they clearly are on one side against woke non sense… I mean Blair White has to be considered to be politically extreme on the left just the fact that she’s a no op trans woman, same with Bill Maher - They are on the extreme side of political ideology and yet they are against woke ism-
    - I imagine that this is a quagmire and a embarrassment To those that want to defend the woke ideology and mindset but that mindset is also losing people on the left side of the political spectrum- How do you rationalize that?
     
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    The meaning of “woke” has migrated from someone who is “awake” to certain left-of-center views of how injustice and prejudice can permeate our society to referring specifically to people who are “woke” in an annoying, obnoxious way:



    I agree with McWhorter that there’s a certain way in which “wokeness” can manifest that warrants a special term, but I don’t think it can simply be people who are obnoxious in their recognition of systemic or otherwise subtle forms of discrimination. There are obnoxious people all over the political map.

    I think the key distinction here are people who are so certain in their righteousness that they think it’s OK to be abusive against those that disagree with them. That is, in their zeal to protect minority groups and the poor, they cross over into demanding a kind of groupthink conformity that is fundamentally illiberal. That is the quality that I think warrants a special term, because I do see that as a worrying trend on the Left. I’m not sure “woke” is the right word for it, though.
     
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    I haven’t watched the video. I will try to check it out later in the day.
     
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    You should check her videos out she is impressive, has a million followers for a reason - very beautiful, charismatic and can relate to a broad spectrum of people … Put in the work to be successful and I can’t help but admire that.
     

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