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2022 Trade Targets

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by HTown2017Champs, May 8, 2022.

  1. SKYGODZ187

    SKYGODZ187 Member

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    It could mean alot of things. It could force certain teams to jump the Gun or as you said they could jump the Gun.

    I don't get How the Yankees can make these trades up against and past that Salary wall

    They are going to have to dump some Salary some where some how and I don't see a OF OF Judge and Soto lasting that long with Stanton in the side car

    Theres just to much money setting around on the Bench and in the Lineup.
    The Yankees will have to literally dump Gallo for Nothing like a LOW LOW LOW A Prospect who isnt much of anything

    There asking price of a Replacement OFer is ridicules much less a decent prospect on top of that.

    and thats just one player they will have to move away from there are a few more
     
  2. Snake Diggit

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    Are you making this up?
     
  3. SKYGODZ187

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    no it was in the Bing headlines
     
  4. CheezeyBoy22

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    Castillo gives the rotation security going into the playoffs. Astros made it to the World Series with suspect pitching last year. From game to game you didn't know what you were going to get out of the rotation especially when McCullers went down.

    I hope Click swings for the fences. The Yankees will surely be looking to do the same.
     
  5. Htown Legend

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    Volpe and Peraza definitely both played tonight and I believe they got 5 ABs a piece. So not sure when they would’ve gotten “pulled”
     
  6. punkoholic

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    Looks like Dominguez and Sweeney were pulled while Breaux was scratched. Yankees source said he's heard nothing as of now and apparently scouts in the know said those 3 won't be enough for Castillo. Reds aren't hight on Dominguez but would take Sweeney because they need a SS with high potential.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj...ame-josh-breaux-scratched.html?outputType=amp
    Reds want Volpe or the other SS right? But Yankees don't want to trade either. Pulling those players is smart if they're dead set on not trading Volpe or the other guy. Why risk injuries to your trade chips.
     
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  7. Snake Diggit

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    Looks like Jasson Dominguez, Josh Breaux, and Trey Sweeney were pulled. That would be a steep but believable package for Castillo.
     
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  8. Marshall Bryant

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    I have not heard anything about what he wants. If it's 4 years then how about 4 @ $36M with $7M team buyouts in the last two years and a team option for $36 thereafter. So he is guaranteed Cole money with the potential for Scherzer $ for 2 years in return for Cole money for 4 if the team chooses to not buy out those two years.

    In other words, $86M for two years guaranteed for the team option for $36M indefinitely after 2 years. It's probably easier to think of it as two separate items. $36M per year for 2 years and $14M for a team option to extend at $36M every year until he retires after the 2 years. Team option ends if not exercised each year.
     
  9. Marshall Bryant

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    I'd rather lock in JV than sign Castillo.
     
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  10. texans1095

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    From a reply on FB to this rumor.

    “The game had 20 runs, was a marathon and it’s nearly 100 degrees out this way with brutal humidity.

    I think it’s just cautionary”

    Probably doesn’t mean anything.
     
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  11. Marshall Bryant

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    My view is $36M/yr Market and $14M retire an Astro bonus. If we could get that done quickly, we can make high value pitching available for SIGNIFICANT upgrades in the Field or Relief. Our In The Hunt pitching would make almost every other team better.
     
  12. juicystream

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    Can't fathom a 4 year deal for a 40 year old.

    I know I mentioned somewhere the kind of deal I see which was 2/$75M or 3/$105M. Maybe you could throw a vesting option in there for a 4th year. 4th year could also be interesting as that is the most likely timetable for him to be able to hit 300 wins (and possibly 4K strikeouts).
     
  13. Marshall Bryant

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    I'd like to see Player options with vesting criteria along with a higher Team option so the team and it's fans are protected. ie $25M Player Option vests at 130 IP with a Team Option for $36M. It protects both the team and the player. You can always negotiate something in between if you have a year valued in between.
     
  14. Snake Diggit

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    Yeah I’m not giving Verlander 4 years at a AAV among the top 5 pitchers in the league. If he wants a long term deal (longer than 3 seasons) then it needs to be a deal that unquestionably keeps him in Houston until the end of his career and also has a low enough AAV to not significantly cripple the franchise financially if he falls apart. I’d do $110M/3yrs pretty easily (and probably do incentives as well), and I’d do as many player/vesting options as he wants after that, but they’d need to be $15M/yr or less.
     
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  15. Snake Diggit

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    https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2022-trade-value-intro-and-honorable-mention/

    It’ll be interesting to see which Astros end up on the list. I assume Yordan, Pena, and Tucker will all be on the list, but Altuve, Framber, Garcia, and Javier all could reasonably be there, and none of them were in the honorable mention section.

    ETA: Garcia came in at 44, so I assume Framber will be there as well. So Houston should have 5 of the 50 most valuable assets in the game.
     
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  16. Wulaw Horn

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    Framber, Garcia and Javier almost all have to be in a trade value column. My sense is Altuve is too old and makes too much money to be really valuable in the trade market. I'm fine being on the hook for the remainder of his contract, of course, but there is a serious risk on the one hand that he gets old between here and there, there is, as with everyone, an injury risk, and there is the fact that if you pay one guy 30 million that hamstrings what you are trying to do elsewhere. Because of all that I can't imagine some team shipping 2 or 3 top 100 prospects or something like that to us. It'd have to be a challenge trade for someone else that makes big money, I'd think.
     
  17. HTown2017Champs

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    Same. When you have a first ballot Hall of Famer on your roster, do not let him go. We already learned that lesson once. If 4yr/$144M is what he wants then I don’t have a problem with that, but I can see why ownership might. That is $36M annually, and Scherzer got $42.3M per year. If he stays healthy and continues to perform like a ToR starter, come 2025/26 it will look like a bargain, because inflation will continue to rise.
    I would also throw in incentives for reaching 300 wins and 4000 K, perhaps making an offer for 3 years fully guaranteed with the a fourth year team option that becomes fully guaranteed should he reach either career milestone by the end of the third year.
     
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  18. Screaming Fist

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    Remember the last time the Astros gave JV a big >$30M/AAV deal and he pitched all of one game? There are other pitches out there who will put up comparable numbers without the same price tag.
     
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  19. juicystream

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    Where are these other pitchers?
     
  20. Nook

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    I agree, it is unheard of and I was dismissive when I heard of the ask… but I guess a 39 year old pitcher in the non-steroid era on pace to go: 22-5 with a 1.86 era and 200 innings and 200 K’s with a WHIP of .800 is unheard of as well.

    Since joining the Astros he is 57-17 with a 2.34 era in nearly 600 innings.
     

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