How much will KPjr make per year on the next deal?

KPJ is a better player. He is simply not valued as highly as Sexton. No need to argue or diminish what I'm saying. The market will bear out the facts

 

If we're resigning KPJ before this season, it's going to be something like a 3 year/$36-40 million with a team option in the third year and nothing bigger than that

If he doesn't take that I'm near certain we'd wait until after this season to do it, another season of data to see if he continues to grow and seeing if he can go incident free

edit- Extra thought that I'd be ok with having incentives that can get it up to $50-55 million

 

KPJ extension before the 22 season = $14 mil per. KPJ extension after successful 22 season = $20-$25 mil per.

 

We have so much cap room next off-season that if we aren't getting him on a pretty team friendly deal I have no issues taking the risk that he plays his value up

 

Because overpaying for players who put up numbers on losing teams is what ensures that your team will keep losing.

 

My point was about his actual value...I don't think we should conflate what idiots on Twitter or random fans with actual value. That's why I think a lot of the random fans and certain Twitter people or TV talking heads might be surprised just how much he gets, they don't have an accurate idea of what his true value actually is.

We're talking about the guy who is currently the most talented player on a team with 2 top 3 picks.

 

If team salary minimum is the concern (after Wall), I'd much rather get someone better at a higher salary but fair market value.

Wall coming off the books is not a reason to overpay KPJ. For people to suggest $20m or higher number, you guys really need to survey rest of league.

 

Bingo. 100% correct

ClutchFans on Twitter: ""Rockets guard Kevin Porter Jr. and the organization have mutual interest in a contract extension before the start of the 2022-23 season, sources said." Unless this is an absolute bargain with team protection, there's no need for the Rockets to do this right now." / Twitter

 

anything more than 10 million a year would be r****ded. why waste capspace of 15 - 20 million a year on him when you could use it to get an all-star? i'd rather just trade him if we can get a first if he turns down that 10 million. Stone will do the right thing. this is his first true test in not overpaying.

 

It's really not correct. The reason to do it now is that there's a chance the Rockets could lock him up long term for under 20 mil a year if they do it now. If they wait a season, it'll cost them a LOT more. Sure maybe see if you can get an "absolute bargain" at 14 mil a year, but if it takes a mil or two more to get it done, it's still worth it.

 

Stone don’t wanna deal matching some wildcards team desperate offer if he shows out this year

KPJ probably knows he can’t handle the stress of trying to prove he can play point guard & try to play for his first real contract. Probably is willing to take something for friendly to get it out of sight & out of mind

They’ll find a respectable middle

 

Wrong - we overpaid for Ariza - moved him, overpaid for CP3 moved him, overpaid for....well you get the point, it does no such thing.

DD

 

the kid would be dumb to play hardball. he has no leverage. he puts up numbers on a bad team who gave him a chance, but with his history, no team will give him that 15 million a year. what has he done in the playoffs? at the end of the day he's replaceable. we could get scoot henderson next year and we'd forget about this dude in a second. he needs to sign a 3 year deal and prove that he's a professional and worthy of a bigger contract.

 

I'm personally hoping he agrees to somewhere between 14 and 16 mil a year. It'll be a solid discount from his actual value and would provide the franchise future mobility and protection in case something crazy happened.

 

Overpaying for a guy who’s gonna be a star, which means he’ll be underpaid in the next year or so?! Sign me up!!

 

That 15-20 mil can be salary filler to get said all star. We have no double digit contracts to match salary with after Gordon is gone.

Regardless we’ll have the cap space to sign an unrestricted all star straight up. Saving that extra 5-10 mill makes no difference.

 

why do you think 15-20 million a year to kpj will be easily tradeable? this assumes another team wants him.he's nothing but a bench piece on any contender.

 

Nope. Absolutely 0 reason. Clutch is once again correct as usual

 

In any trade for a star we have to match the salary.

That’s where KPJ’s contract is a benefit. He would be salary filler in a trade package of young players and picks for an Allstar.

 

I'm a big believer in this and thankfully the way Stone has operated I really believe he is too.

Giving out bad contracts absolutely hamstrings a team and leads to scenarios later where you are giving up assets to get rid of them. And while I do believe in KPJ, he's volatile enough to potentially make himself useless. I need a little bit more time removed from him leaving the game early to say I'd for sure commit a lot of guaranteed money to him.

The cost of giving a bad untradeable contract is worse than the opportunity gain of getting something that could turn into a bargain IMO