How much will KPjr make per year on the next deal?

Correct!! He’s gonna have a monster season and will be very pricey. It’s smart to do it now

 

Also, 20 mill a year would be something like the 20th highest paid starting PG. If he has a monster year he'd be looking for a lot more than that.

That's why it would be smart to lock him up long term now

 

Higher. More like $20M - $22M per

 

In a league where Caris Levert is making something like 18M and Buddy Hield makes 21M, that gives me a rough idea.

Basketball contracts seem to be more about player leverage vs the free agent pool that season than any correlation between value and percent of cap space. I voted 14-17 but wouldnt be shocked if someone bids as high as 25.

I think I'm more concerned about term. I'd try not do more than 2 years given his loose cannon behavior. Long contracts to maladjusted players can cripple a team.

 

This is basically it with me. I don't see him as an easily tradeable player. I would not be surprised if he has a great year this year. It would not surprise me if he has another inefficient year scoring with high turnovers.

 

KPJ looking at his agent like…

 

I think it will probably be 18-20m for at least 3 years. If you want to include team options then it will go higher. People here are acting like a 20m contract is going to be crippling. If you assume KPJ takes Gordon’s salary spot, we are still going to have enough cap space to sign a max free agent and easily enough maneuverability to trade for another. Given the crap FA crop next year, the trade route is where we are heading. If you can get KPJ to sign an 18m contract right now you do it, I don’t care if its five years. When we are ready to compete, we won’t need two max vets. Green, Jabari are pretty much guaranteed as part of your core. At least one of Sengun, KPJ, or Tari will almost certainly step us as a third. If the other two are just role players, then you use your cap for one max vet and use the rest of the room for another vet starter. Stone has been masterful at building roster flexibility. He got a steal with Tate’s contract even if he is just a bench guy in the future. Oh, and we will have a lottery pick next year as well.

 

It should be similar to the Christian Wood deal. He has no leverage. I'd be astounded if he were able to negotiate much more

 

I'd be surprised at an extension. I think the rockets would rather pay $20-25MM to a future star than $14-17MM to a middling player that has high expectations on his role going forward.

So, if KPJ really shows out this year a slight overpay is no big deal. If he has a disappointing season they may just let him go somewhere else or play hardball in restricted free agency.

It may be better just to wait anyway. It seems like very few teams are holding cap space and his position isn't in high demand.

 

$20M contracts aren't crippling but they can be if the player pulls a Vernon Maxwell or a Gilbert Arenas or a Deshaun Watson (though I'm not comparing their actions to KPJ), suddenly you're throwing $20M into an empty hole. That's why I'm more concerned about length.

At this stage in his career, it seems like paying a premium to stay at 2 year contracts is the best carrot to dangle in front of KPJ.

 

Cavs low balled Sexton 40/3 yrs. That's $13m per. Yes it's a low ball, but still kinda funny for a PG with better numbers.

I think Silas/Stone needs to think about the system more. If Sengun becomes the hub, and you want to rely less on kpj for passing but may be lean into his strengths like the catch and shoot. What is that worth salary wise.

37% 3p% is KPJ's career high, but league average is like 36.5. congrats on entering average? Again I realize ppl like to post his better catch and shoot 3's, which is fine, but that's receiving a shot. There's starting to be enough of a sample where Silas should relegated him to his strengths and put him in that role so he becomes a specialist instead of trying to do too much.

There's tweets on KPJ's hockey assists. Kinda like how Jazz fans likes to brag about Gobert's "screen assist".

$10m or under for kpj is fair. If Rockets go beyond, their due diligence should be if what other guards / wings could be had at $15-20m.

 

KPJ’s leverage is that he is valued by the Rockets and will be a RFA next year. 20m is not really much of a gamble for the Rockets given how young their roster is and how far they will be under the cap next year. If he performs well this year some team will offer him an offer sheet well above 20m.

 

LOL he's not a scrub like Tate, a bargain basement contract won't cut it....we're talking about the most talented player on the team who is just 22....and 20 mil a year would be something like the 20th highest paid starting PG in the league.

If he signs long term for less than 15 a year, everyone should jump for joy....because he'd be actively robbing himself. He'll get 20+ a year easily next offseason.

 

Let's get a confirmation of what Colin Sexton was offered before we start negotiating against ourselves. I believe currently he is more valuable (not by me) and he's only received one offer

 

Sexton is coming off a season where he only played 11 games due to injury....and for his career he's averaging 3.3 assists to 2.5 turnovers....in reality he's not even a combo guard and there's no part of his game that is better than KPJ's. Sexton is a lesser player across the board.....and he's older....and coming off a knee injury.

LOL, in what world is Sexton more valuable than KPJ?

 

That 15-20mil, even if KPJ fails, wouldn’t even hurt us cap wise.

Who else are we paying? He would basically be taking Gordon’s place, our entire Core is on Rookie deals and Wall’s money is coming off the books.

Worst case scenario KPJ would be expiring right around the time to pay Jabari and Tari.

 

Our current 616 universe.

 

That's hilarious. There's just no case to be made for Sexton over KPJ. Even if you look at Sexton's best statistical season, he was still a net negative to his team when he was on the court because he's so bad defensively.

Again, there's simply no defending that statement with anything of substance. You can say your "gut feeling" is that Sexton is more valuable, but that's really all you'd have to go on.

 

It's definitely a tightrope we are walking.

Offer $12M per year and he declines and gambles on himself to have
a good year: 20+ pts...5.5 rebs...8.1 Ast...1.8 TO's...1.5 stls...
No incidents (because of contract talks and displaying best behavior)

Asking price then?
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Yeah,. I guess we let the league market set the price as Porter will
be a RFA and the Rockets having approx $71M to play with (can match $ amounts).