So he has done the opposite of whatever it takes to win yet the opposite yielded a rebuild that looks promising? Your hate for Tilman is unwarranted, assuming Tilman would have done every single thing you want. Every single thing all the Tilman haters in this thread keep blabbing about, would The Rockets today be in a better position for the future? I know you can't possibly say they would have won it all so lets discard a championship... Lets be real and look at a timeline when The Rockets could potentially be in contention for a chip.... Jalen Green would possibly be in CLE, DET or ORL... Same goes for Jabari... Where would The Rockets be? Harden was going to walk anyways because he is title chasing, would they be in a better position today for the future? They would probably be stuck in the worst place you possibly can be in The NBA, mediocracy and old with no rising stars. With no future and no draft picks. Every move you hated by The Rockets have led to this point in time, one with extremely talented young players that are potentially the new faces of The NBA alongside Cade, Paolo, Mobley, Barnes....
Giving away Melton to trade Ryan Anderson. Giving away picks to dump the player we got for Anderson to avoid the LT. A pick and a player to make his salary disappear, instead holding on to a contract that would have been extremely tradeable in a year.
What u fail to do and repeatedly choose to ignore is none of the sht owners like 2 brag and keep promise they can't do like tilman. He's better than his peers but that doesn't mean that he deserves praises. He avoids lts when he says he willing to pay when we had harden. Man talks a bunch and is always doing the opposite. Cue the practice facility. But what do u know tilman stans always gotta make excuses. We can wait five more years and u can make more excuses for him
That's absurd. Melton was a scrub who took years to develop into a backup. Even the Suns dumped him... I'm now convinced you're a moron. The Suns had this valuable expiring contract of Ryan Anderson. It got them Tyler Johnson, Wayne Ellington, and cash. Ellington was waived the next day. Johnson exercised his 19 million dollar option and was waived a year later. Johnson played 406 minutes in 2019 and 515 minutes the following year. In his time in Phoenix he shot 30.2% from 3 and 37.5% overall. That was an improvement over the 20.6%/31.7% Anderson shot in Phoenix. So to claim Anderson on expiring was a positive asset ignores reality. The Suns took a worse contract for him hoping Johnson would turn things around. I noticed you didn't cite a single player they could have gotten who was better than what they did...
He avoids paying? Paying who? The players that caused our loss in the playoffs? Overpaying bad players is how you lose games. You can overpay good ones but a bad contract doesn't help you. Paying Ariza 15 million to be the 11th best player on the roster is dumb... it's bad management. Bad first rounders can't get you Eric Gordon and yet you think a bad first rounder and the ghost or Ariza and Anderson are going to get you a good player? Why didn't Ariza and Anderson get traded for good players then by their new teams after they were ready to dump them in less than a year? Those suns picks were worse than the rockets back then? You guys are clowns dancing around for my entertainment...
@sealclubber1016 "took years for melton to develop" Melton is apparently some old vet thats been in the league for years and years. Typical Cf's idiot Landry's Tooth is. Patrick you're really that dumb. The suns were his rookie year. Then in his 2nd season he gets traded to memphis and low and behold as he developed throughout the year, he got rewarded with a 4 year $35 mil contract to begin his 3rd year in the league. This is why Tilman bootlickers are an embarrassment
"instead holding on to a contract that would have been extremely tradeable in a year." Tyler Johnson Wayne Ellington 1.8 million cash LMAO...
Come on... you can do it... Start naming all the players we could have signed or traded for with the ghosts of Ariza and Anderson... You don't because you know they are all bigger garbage than the Ennis/Anthony/House/Shumpert/Rivers/Faried sandwich they took a bite out of..
Objectively he’s been a terrible team owner. I say this as a Coog alum who’s very grateful for his investment in our program.
Good for TF. If this benefits societally in any form then kudos and a half. Sports franchisees of all major sports have an embedded relationship with their communities. I expect civic commitment.
Objectively you lack specifics which may expose things you believe to be true but may not be. He spends money. He's been top half of nba payroll during the rebuild. He paid 2 GMs at the same time. What you want from an owner is to write checks and let basketball ops do what they want within reason. My concern is why basketball ops planted the idea in his head that Westbrook with Harden might work. It shouldn't have gotten that far.
I don’t know man, I’m simply going by outcomes. Things went to sh*t under his ownership in record time. In fairness he has a chance to fix a terrible start, and he seems to be on the right path now. I’m pulling for him as he’s a fellow UH alum, and he genuinely loves our alma mater and put his money down on that… so I take the ‘cheap’ slanders with a healthy grain of salt. Obviously as a businessman he’s well aware outcomes are what he and the organization are measured by, so my mind is open but the first few years were an objective disaster.
I think the situation was what he bought into... years of dealing picks for immediate help led to a capped out roster that was one of the oldest in the league. When they went from 65 wins to 52 with the oldest roster I understand the desire to make drastic changes. I think they made the wrong one clearly with Westbrook. I put that a third each on Harden, Morey, and him. If any of those 3 say hell no it almost certainly doesn't happen. They sacrificed 2 more years of winning basketball that was unlikely to produce a title to rebuilding in half the time. TF did cite Crane as inspiration for bottoming out. If things go similarly for the Rockets these irrational clowns (not throwing you in with them) will be praising TF.
I think the thing to look into is GROWTH I am noticing it I don't know if he is maturing as an owner or R.Stone told him to SHUT THE FFFK UP!! But I maybe wrong but he is less in the news with bad takes He is allowing Stone to do as Stone wants and seems more hands off and letting basketball people do basketball things This could all be imaginary but that is what I see He *WAS* a **** owner at first but now. .. not so much in a few years maybe a Great Owner. . . somethings take time Unfortunately. . . sometimes to win Daytona. . .you have to wreck a Lexus or two first Rocket River
