Package for Castillo to the reds I think would have to be something like Brown, Leon and a complex league or A ball guy or two they like, and that might not be enough.
The Reds would be crazy to turn it down. Luis Garcia is a known commodity with a chance to improve. Worth more than a top prospect IMO
If they couldn't get more than that from another team they didn't try. That would be very Bill O'Brienesque when he traded Hopkins. It's like he took the first offer that came along.
I'm not understanding if this is sarcasm. The Astros would essentially be trading Garcia for the most coveted, probably available starting pitcher that is under control for another year and Drury. Here is what baseball executives say about acquiring Cadtillo. Executives predict it will cost a team at least two of its top five prospects, and perhaps three of their top 10. ... The Reds, badly in need of young position players, will have one of the top 10 farm systems after trading Castillo.
Can't stand Soto. I'd probably learn to like him in blue and orange, who wouldn't? My main motivation would be to keep him out of New York, Toronto, or Seattle. He goes to the Yankees while they still have Judge - yikes - don't want to see that happen. Close the book on this year. Only silver lining to him going to Yankees would be that they couldn't afford both going forward and Judge walks. None of this makes me feel great about failing to extend Tucker. Tucker isn't going to be that far behind these guys with a contract. Inflation hurts.
I appreciate these responses And I think there is no downside to changing Dubon and Siri to even 3-4 of the Astros 35+ to 40+ level prospects ( #s 8-30 maybe) Garcia is the centerpiece of the deal and Drury is a rental so I wouldn't give up top 5-7 in the system. My understanding is that Reds ownership is still trying to sell fans that they are looking to compete next season and want young controllable players but ones ready to contribute at the MLB level from day one. That ( along with the general weakness of the minor league system) is why I suggested MLB players, but ones the Astros could do without and still compete for a WS.
And I'm saying I value Garcia that way and Drury is a guy that had to settle for a minimum salary deal this offseason. You have 5 years of control with Luis Garcia, a proven middle of the rotation pitcher with a chance for more.
So my valuation of Castillo has been much like the ridiculously light offers I have seen posted about Soto. I just felt that including Garcia was as valuable a piece as 2-3 top prospects and unlike JV Castillo only has 1 year of control left. LMAO Oh well I never claimed to be perfect. I think Castillo is a big bold move in the Verlander, Grienke vein. It's not needed, the SP is plenty deep and talented, but it would it from very good to unbelievably great. However a run producing bat is needed.
I don't get those 2. Rangers have huge commitments to Semien and Seager. Are they the Angels? Similarly SD has huge commitments to Machado and Tatis Jr. And they have been trying to figure out how to cut salary back from luxury tax threshhold for years ( Hosmer, Myers, now Snell) Oh, and they need to pay Musgrove. Maybe the Astros should make a run at Joe!!
Honestly, I think we're better off targeting Reynolds as a natural CF with plus defense and Josh Bell. The ask price is lower and they address needs directly. I'd try to work out a reasonable extension with Bell first at around 4 years 75 million prior to trade. Yuli can come back as a super sub as first guy off the bench. At age 39 he's not going to have a ton of options. Given Reynolds control he might cost us Hunter Brown; which I'm ok with. The other thought I had would be to take Corbin with Bell to save the Nats payroll. Say we cover 10 million per year on him. It might save us a prospect or two... He then becomes our new Odorizzi but as a lefty...
Oh! I thought you were talking about Ed Wade He found a way to lose every trade by undervaluing Astros and over-valuing non-Astros. He was the king of getting nothing via the irrevocable waiver wire.
To be clear, you think the Reds would be crazy to not accept what is essentially Garcia for Castillo straight up?
Rangers would actually be pretty smart to pay the price to get Soto. They’re already in deep with Semien and Seager so may as well move their timeline up. A package headlined by Jung and Winn would likely be competitive and wouldn’t crush the Rangers’ future since they have other prospects for those spots.
To Pirates: Hunter Brown Pedro Leon Jake Meyers JJ Matijevic To Astros: Bryan Reynolds To Nationals: Forrest Whitley Joe Perez Colin Barber Luken Baker To Cardinals: Jake Odorrizi To Astros: Josh Bell Patrick Corbin (astros cover 30% of contract) Zack Thompson Gives us our outfield locked in for a few years (Alvarez, Reynolds, Tucker). Bell plays 1B until we develop someone there. Yuli comes off the bench. We then have 2 lefties added to pen, one as a swing starter. Leaves us: Verlander Mccullers Valdez Garcia Javier With Urquidy and Corbin as 6/7 starters. Then if Verlander leaves we move everyone up if Corbin looks fixed. There would be money savings on Brantley to pay Bell. 2B Altuve 3B Bregman LF Alvarez RF Tucker 1B Bell DH Gurriel? SS Pena CF Reynolds C Maldonado/ Lee
definitely agree with this, particularly pertaining to likelihood of leon getting moved now. i think the odds they are going to be making a splashy move are pretty high.
I know this isn't to me but I originally posted the Castillo for Garcia straight up trade. I don't think the Reds would be crazy to not accept but I do think it's a fair offer and should be attractive to them. Castillo is an ACE but a free agent after 2023. The likelihood of the Reds contending next year is slight, despite what they sell the fans. Garcia is a proven SP with a #3 floor and still has some upside that is controlled for 4 more seasons. He is more valuable than prospects.
The Reynolds trade looks reasonable. The Nats trade is an insane overpay; take both Whitley and Barber out and it looks fine (or take out Corbin and Barber).
