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Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, eliminating constitutional right to abortion

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Jun 24, 2022.

  1. Corrosion

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    This happened ..... and I still can't believe it.

    This might have been the dumbest thing the GOP / conservatives have ever done.

    ..... afraid of what's next.
     
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    And if he rapes a child in Guatamala many don't get to push the argument that an "illegal alien" raped a child. He's still a rapist and a child was raped. You're arguing that his immigration status somehow means that wouldn't happen. All that means it wouldn't happen in the US.
     
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    I would think that a US citizen raping a child should be considered as heinous as a non citizen raping a child.

    Jeffrey Epstein's island wasn't part of the US so should we have not been talking about that island since crimes committed there didn't happen on US soil?
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Right.

    Even with exceptions ("medical emergency"), health providers aren't clear. That's exactly the case in TX. Ectopic pregnancy could be seen as not a medical emergency until it ruptures.

    I don't know how much they thought it through (I think they did think it through). They simply value a lump of cells more than a living human. On this very forum, folks who believe life starts at conception, have said they don't trust medical personnel's decisions on what is dangerous to women's health. They are afraid patients and dr will abuse that term to have abortion nilly billy. Thus, they support gov getting the middle to carefully watch what doctors do. The outcome of gov getting in the middle of the dr and patient relationship for reproductive care is exactly this and more - at the end of the day, harm has already been done to women and families and harm will continue to be done until the gov get out of this business of interfering with people's health and reproductive rights or at least make it clear that dr should be able to safeguard women's health without risks of lawsuits or prosecution. That's not happening with TX suing the Fed gov over guidance on abortion for a health emergency and other GOP lead States rushing to limit abortion with the same very limited exceptions as TX (plus no exceptions for rape or incest).
     
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    What they need to have is a preacher in the hospital to make these decisions on whether it's worth the risk to the developing fetus to save the woman's life. Only god should be involved in this, not the corrupt doctors or the immoral woman.
     
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  6. TheJuice

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    As far as Im aware, the US can and will prosecute you for child sex crimes even abroad
     
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  7. Amiga

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    Women and families are being harmed and will continue to be harmed.

    Abortion laws spark profound changes in other medical care - ABC News (go.com)

    Even in medical emergencies, doctors are sometimes declining immediate treatment. In the past week, an Ohio abortion clinic received calls from two women with ectopic pregnancies — when an embryo grows outside the uterus and can’t be saved — who said their doctors wouldn’t treat them. Ectopic pregnancies often become life-threatening emergencies and abortion clinics aren’t set up to treat them.

    Munoz said he faced an awful predicament with a recent patient who had started to miscarry and developed a dangerous womb infection. The fetus still had signs of a heartbeat, so an immediate abortion — the usual standard of care — would have been illegal under Texas law.

    “We physically watched her get sicker and sicker and sicker” until the fetal heartbeat stopped the next day, “and then we could intervene,’’ he said. The patient developed complications, required surgery, lost multiple liters of blood and had to be put on a breathing machine “all because we were essentially 24 hours behind.’’

    In a study published this month in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, doctors at two Texas hospitals cited the cases of 28 women less than 23 weeks pregnant who were treated for dangerous pregnancies. The doctors noted that all of the women had recommended abortions delayed by nine days because fetal heart activity was detected. Of those, nearly 60% developed severe complications — nearly double the number of complications experienced by patients in other states who had immediate therapeutic abortions. Of eight live births among the Texas cases, seven died within hours. The eighth, born at 24 weeks, had severe complications including brain bleeding, a heart defect, lung disease and intestinal and liver problems.

    “It’s sad to think that I can’t have kids, but it’s better than being forced to have children,’’ Nitsch said.

    Dr. Tyler Handcock, an Austin OB-GYN, said his clinic has heard from hundreds of patients seeking sterilization since the Supreme Court’s June 24 decision. Many choose this route because they fear long-acting birth control or other contraceptives could also become targets, he said.

    Becky Schwarz, of Tysons Corner, Virginia, found herself unexpectedly thrust into the abortion controversy even though she has no plans to become pregnant.

    The 27-year-old has lupus, an autoimmune disease that can cause the body to attack tissue surrounding joints and organs, leading to inflammation and often debilitating symptoms. For Schwarz, these include bone and joint pain, and difficulty standing for long periods of time.

    She recently received a notice from her doctor saying she’d have to stop taking a medication that relieves her symptoms — at least while the office reviewed its policies for methotrexate in light of the Supreme Court ruling. That’s because the drug can cause miscarriages and theoretically could be used in an attempt to induce an abortion.
     
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    Epstein is a US citizen. As y'all have pointed out we have rapists to deal with here already. Let's not import more.

    Your argument that they will rape wherever they are so it might as well be here is shocking beyond reason.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    I said it’s equally heinous wherever it happens. Your arguing that that if he would’ve been kept out of the US we wouldn’t care about it.

    I’m saying a rape of a child is horrible. Immigration status doesn’t change it
     
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    If only. You'd need a national DNA database to even attempt holding men accountable for accidental pregnancies, and that's not going to happen. SMDH.
     
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    The mom most likely knows who the father is, or at least has some short list of candidates. She can sue to establish paternity and get a support order. I think that is an available option in all 50 states and DC.
     
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    Serious question - In the case of rape, do you know how that (child support) work when the father is the rapist?
     
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    You sure about that cause I am not

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    23 and me and you and everyone else
     
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    I wonder how many women would need to be held accountable if all children had DNA tests. :confused:
     
  19. Invisible Fan

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    Cons are a joke. Less than 1% of all abortions are happening after the 2nd trimester.

    Compare these numbers to Americans and their children getting shot up, "legally" or "illegally", through gun violence, there's no comparison.

    Party of Life through Thoughts n Prayers
    No wonder they're going full Jihad on Day-After pills. You're only clamping down on 600-650 reported abortions, might as well go an extra level of cuckoo.

    Sidenote - Is it a good thing or bad thing abortion and fertility rates as a whole is going splat?
     
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