The father definitely has culpability. I don't know enough about IL laws on this and am wondering if there is a way to charge him for violating IL laws or even tie him to being an accessory to the crimes.
I'm poking fun at originalism. There isn't true originalism anyway. It's just an excuse to push their values. But if you proclaim to be one, you should be judged as someone wanting to take America back to the 18th century while living in the 21st century. IOW, you are fking backward. I have respect and am amazed at what the founding fathers were able to accomplish. Like originalists today, I believe we should judge anyone through the lens of the environment they were/are in. So, yes, they were very wrong in some areas but I can understand it as part of their environment. Heck, the founders were young (18-30) radicals of their time. If they were born today, they probably would be part of a progressive or got-to-change gov wing seeing how today's US government is not representative of the people.
yeah, the father bears huge responsibility for this mass shooting I am sick and tired of these idiots Don’t forget that kid Ethan Crumbley who’s parents ignored all the warning signs before he went and shot up his school. They were charged with involuntary manslaughter. How tf do u sign off on a gun for your kid? Why? Charge his ass. Blood is on his hands too. How negligent and stupid can u be?
The father doesn't seem to understand how dangerous guns (assault weapons in this case) can be, that what he did could be extremely harmful and that he could be liable. No regret. The background check is broken. Highland Park suspect’s father to be investigated for signing gun application | Highland Park shooting | The Guardian The father of the Highland Park gunman will be criminally investigated in connection with the Independence Day attack for signing an affidavit supporting his son’s application for a gun license, police said. In Illinois, individuals must be at least 21 to independently obtain a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID), which is generally needed to legally own a gun. Anyone under 21 can apply for a FOID with the written consent of a parent or legal guardian who is not prohibited from having a FOID card themselves. In doing so, they agree to be held liable for “any damages resulting from the minor applicant’s use of firearms or firearm ammunition”. Parade Gunman's Father Doesn't Regret Helping His Son Get Permit To Buy Gun Used To Kill 7 - The Police Tribune The state police issued the FOID card to the future mass killer in January of 2020 because “there was insufficient basis to establish a clear and present danger to deny the FOID application.” At the time, the only offense on the future gunman’s record was a 2016 ordinance violation for possession of tobacco, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. ISP said Crimo III passed four separate background checks in order to buy guns on June 9, 2020, July 18, 2020, July 31, 2020, and Sept. 20, 2021. ISP Director Brandon Kelly said that despite the “clear and present danger” report that Highland Park police sent after the incidents, and the fact that the teen admitted to using drugs and “to being depressed when statements were made,” there was “insufficient basis” to deny him the FOID card, WFLD reported.
Seem so Father of Highland Park suspected shooter could be held criminally liable for sponsoring his son's gun permit application, legal expert says (yahoo.com) "There's no question that [the father] could be held criminally liable," Neama Rahmani, a former federal prosecutor and president of West Coast Trial Lawyers told Insider. "If you're helping someone who is mentally unwell get weapons and you know or should know of their history of violent threats, the law can hold you criminally responsible." His father's decision to sponsor the application, even after the boy's threats prompted a police response, could put him on the hook for involuntary manslaughter, Rahmani said. "You're creating an unreasonable risk of death because of your actions," the legal expert said. "You don't have to pull the trigger to be charged with manslaughter."
Former prime minister Abe got got with a home made gun today. I watched a piece on how 3d printing gun enthusiasts are all into that and it's still fairly rudimentary... but won't be forever... so there's something to look forward to.
Only in America. Japan a country of 125 million had one handgun death last year. I suspect their is a strong correlation between support for AR-15's and handguns and the so called "pro-life" (lol) movement;
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/09/us/chicago-residents-holiday-weekend-shootings-reaj/index.html There's a poster here who is involved with Chicago inner city youth and knows about the development of how it got to be so violent today. Forgot his handle and too lazy to look it up, but this article reminded me of his posts.
It's not rocket science! It's GOP NRA blood money grabbing politicians who need to get on board with change!
Doesn't trust news or mediuh with words. Watches *ucker Carlson daily. Huh? Wuh? Dat hapund? Not me. Me dint kno. Me gud American. Swear to Gawd
Yes I saw that on other news. Firearms can be used for self-defense but they can also be used to kill a lot of people. That is why we should have more laws and enforcement keeping firearms out of the hands of those who would use them to harm others.
Glad the Good Samaritan stopped the mall shooter. Glad he seems to have had both the bravery and the wisdom to use his gun to stop a shooting short without hurting others. But I anticipate the incident will be a proof-point for the gun nuts saying restrictions on carrying guns are bad. I still think the mall's ban on guns is a good policy and they should keep it, even though a violation of that policy might have worked out for the best this time. (Also, I don't think Good Samaritan is a good handle for someone who meets violence with violence, even if you want to say he's a hero for it. In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus is asked 'who is my neighbor' that must be loved as oneself, and he gives examples of holy people -- a priest, and then a Levite -- who see a victim of robbers and don't help, and then the Samaritan, a religious and ethnic minority who would be looked down upon by the Pharisees hearing the story, is the one who shows mercy on the victim by spending his time and money on caring for him. And Jesus points to him as the model of someone who loves his neighbor as himself. The Samaritan doesn't defend the victim and he doesn't avenge the victim. He doesn't use violence at all. He provides healing for someone who has already suffered. If Jesus had the example of the guy who shot the mall shooter, would he have pointed at that guy and said he was loving his neighbor as himself? I'm dubious. Maybe comparing him to Moses when he murdered an Egyptian for beating a Hebrew would be a closer example.)
https://abc13.com/houston-crime-pos...alleria-sergeant-thwarted-shootings/12054469/ This seemed under-reported. This has to be a loophole, because this shouldn't be a simple misdemeanor: I get that he didn't shoot anyone, but hell, that should be a felony. Carrying a rifle in your hand is not peacable carry as dictated by the history and tradition of this country, especially if you're dressed up in punisher gear.
Damn. I know the GM and some other managers at that mall. They’ve put quite a bit of security resources into that mall too. I guess us passing through metal detectors at malls will become a necessity in the next decade. Which sucks, the industry is already struggling.
It's just messed up that he's only getting a misdemeanor mainly because he was tackled by the cop working security before he could shoot. To me, it doesn't matter if he's a crazy (most likely), a 2A nut making a point, or a doing a YouTube prank, this should be a felony. It's one thing to have a gun in your holster or arguably even a rifle on your back if you're an expansive 2A person, but if you got Bible one hand, rifle in the other, spiked mask, punisher gear, ammo and extra guns on you and you're walking into the Galleria, that cannot be a slap on the wrist punishment. That has to be mental institution for years or prison for years. Red flags everywhere for this dude.
