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There's no method to the madness

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hlmbasketball, Jul 8, 2022.

  1. DaDakota

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    Kudos to the coaches for getting some plays in tonight looked much better.

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  2. bmelo

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    Jaari isn't great in the iso be should be the one stepping into the shot after initial playmaker is forced to pass out
     
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    The summer league squad of a tanking team lol.....

    Not one time in the past two years have I cared even a smidge for how the Rockets executed as a team, not for a single ****ing play.

    Our goal is to tank, collect talent and develop the players. There has been no effort into putting together a team that fits, or adding free agents to bolster the roster, the Rockets have simply put th themselves in best place to add talent. As they should be.

    Most of our young guys have shown drastic improvement, which is what is important. I am absolutely fine with what Silas is doing and frankly I am fine with bringing him back the year after next. IMO he deserves a shot with the team when the goal is to actually win.
     
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    No worries guys.
    Once the season starts, our superplaymaker Sengun will be ready to go with his own system.
     
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  5. hlmbasketball

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    I think this supports my original analysis. Because of the lottery system in place TANKING yr In and yr Out does not make sense. The chances of you winning the #1 pick is 14%, the odds are too low and what it does is it ruin the players confidence.
     
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  6. hlmbasketball

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    Listening to 97.5FM this morning, Lance and John backed up my original assessment of Silas.

    IT'S TIME FOR HIM TO START WINNING! They said how last yr the players did not listen to him and how his team did not play defense! There was NO RESPECT.

    Which leads me to another point I made earlier, I would have never traded C.Wood until we got a REAL COACH. I'm curious to see how Wood play next yr....was Wood the problem or Silas?
     
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  7. hlmbasketball

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  8. Stephen_A

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    Does any team look like a team in SL? But about Silas, not sure what you are referring to since they run plays all the time for Christian Wood or come off pistol action with their guards etc. The issue is personnel. You can’t put that on the coach when we simply didn’t have personnel and in my opinion much of why offense looked disjointed was the play of Wood but mainly the pg position. There was no calming presence or control in the half court with KPJ running amok and turning the ball over etc. I would imagine the team will turn to this area next. The team looked more calm when EG, Nix, or Schroeder played point. But also the rest of the roster isn’t filled out. There still are a few pieces missing.
     
  9. hlmbasketball

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    I don't think the problem was Wood's offense production, I think it was the team in general. Silas's offense seems to be steered more towards ISOs and his defense was talked about but not preached.
     
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    You don’t play like this in the streets? Lol what plays do people run in pickup games? What streets you from dude lmao
     
  11. Stephen_A

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    Our personnel just has been weird and it’s not a final product post Harden. The team had to assemble a group of players adding and subtracting and the process continues and we should be patient. I haven’t even mentioned Sengun but he is not a typical center. More like a 4 playing the 5. He isn’t an interior presence either in the Robert Williams mold. So you have an undersized 5 that doesn’t play a typical interior role, a 4 that plays like a guard on the perimeter, and a shot happy ISO heavy PG that doesn’t know how to play point. This is why our offense looks crazy. I put most of it on personnel. You’re right right about ISO in terms of Wood and KPJ. But the PG is the issue since every time another player started at point the team shared the ball better and played more like a team even with Wood in the lineup. I firmly believe KPJ is the issue.
     
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    I like both players; KPJ and Wood. Since this was a rebuilding team, I did not see the need to trade Wood, re was still developing and KPJ, last yr was his 1st yr playing PG full time. That position is similar to playing QB in the NFL, it takes time. He improved towards the latter part of the yr.

    Back to Wood, I would have loved to seen him and Jabari in the front court with Sengun. I think at this stage Jabari is better served as a 3, than a 4
     
  13. TheJuice

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    Wood didnt want to be here and even if he did, he was hitting his prime age when were years away from being competitive. He likely would have walked next offseason. He came here to play on a contender with Harden, not repeat his situation in Detroit.
     
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    I chose to trust a person at their word and everything he said from the time he got here until he left, he said he loved H-Town. So, I never got that indication.

    Nor do I think he reached his peak or was close to it. Remember, Wood is only 26yrs old and last yr was his 2nd yr playing full time as a starter. And with big men in the NBA it takes them longer to develop. I think he was going to reach his peak around 28 - 30, similar to Wiggins with Golden State.

    Like I've been saying, the Rockets should not have moved him until they hired a better coach or let Lionel Hollins coach him.
     
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    Where do you think he would have gotten better?

    He was good at putting up empty stats and is good if you want a stretch big man for pick and pop thats about it. His situation is nothing like Wiggins (who isnt a big man). In fact the Wiggins at Golden State scenario is so hyper specific I dont think Wiggins would have worked well on any time besides maybe Boston or Toronto.
     
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    I think with Hollins on board, he would have demanded more from Wood defensively and with Jabari and Tari, they would have pushed Wood to give more of a consistent effort.

    Fans state that Wood's stats are empty, because the Rockets were losing. If Wiggins were on the Rockets playing the exact same way he played for the Warriors, fans would say the same things about him. A player is only as good as the players around him.

    BTW, I only used Wiggins as an example. It took him 6 - 7 yrs to develop and he never put up 20/10 numbers, even when he was on a bad team.
     
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    well yes, thats the definition of empty stats. I also dont know where we'd fit Woods in the rotation and give him touches bringing in 3 rookies while also having Segun on the roster. Im also inclined to trust the FO that he was a locker room problem over a departing player looking to get a big payday next offseason. Dont be surprised if he gets run out of Dallas. He's a glorified Ryan Anderson.
     
  18. hlmbasketball

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    I said before, that I think Jabari is better served as a SF right now, until he can gain more strength and weight. So, my lineup would have been

    C - Sengun
    PF - Wood
    SF - Jabari
    SG - Green
    PG - KPJ

    We would've had FINALLY had length, outside shooting and defense, all with your oldest player being 26yrs old.
     
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    Were going to have to agree to disagreebecause I just dont see the long term fit. Wood wouldve have left for a contender and that lineup isnt good enough to get into the playoffs
     
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    The SENGUN system:

    Start games
    End games
    No-look passes
    Get to the FT line
    Unleash spin moves
    Never surrender
     
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