Where do you think Kevin Porter Jr. will be for the 2023-24 season?

I think the ship has sailed on KPJ starting at the three.
Rather see Tari starting there which I’m guessing he eventually will.

 

There’s a lot of question marks certainly. To project what kind of a season he will have we would need to go back and look at his first 2 seasons here. He has been a very erratic player and hasn’t exactly fulfilled the pg role for this team. He scored in bunches last few games but that didn’t necessarily equate wins or made the team better. This is his style and always has been as I talk about style and identity as a player is very important. This leads me to think his season wouldn’t be much different. Perhaps his TO’s are reduced and maybe paint scoring efficiency increased but I don’t expect much change. Due to his erratic play at the point and limited body of work with the Cavs at the 3 I don’t think teams would know how to play him and considering his history of not coping well with adversity I don’t believe there’s much of a market for him. And To be honest I think a reduced role for him may be the answer for any team willing to take him. Get him off the one on ones and ball handling duties and play him as a 2. Shooting and defense will be his role.

 

I think at least some of the FO decisions have been made with KPJ contingencies in mind. The grooming of Nix and the drafting of Tyty. Nix will most certainly start as the backup PG, and I think TyTy will be shelved off in the G League for most of the season. But if Nix emerges well, there will be a real question with KPJ, especially if he has a moment or two in the season where he quits, acts petulant, or something like that. The point being that the FO is doing its job well, not going all-in on KPJ foolishly, and hedging wisely. There is a reason KPJ hasn't been given an extension yet, and it's not because they're sold about him being a core piece of this teams future.

 

I really think less is more in KPJ’s case. I make the Wiggins comparison. Wolves wanted Wiggins to be their featured player and groomed him for several years allowing him to be their main playmaker handling the ball and playing a lot of 1-4 iso etc. That never quite panned out but with a reduced role in GS he has thrived. His role is pretty simple now: shoot 3s from wings and corners, drive when there’s an open lane/angle, play perimeter defense. I think KPJ needs to accept a similar lesser role if given the opportunity. I think he can actually thrive not having to make plays or decisions as point. Less is more.

 

KPJ will get a contract but I don't think it will be from the Rockets unless he performs at a borderline all-star level. I don't see the Rockets giving tying up the majority of their cap room in 2023 for a non all-star level player. I don't think KPJ will get an offer over $16 mil a year from the Rockets because they want to sign a max player heading into 2023-24. That's been the entire plan since the rebuild stated.

If you put KPJ in the same sentence with Hakeem again I will convince Clutch to ban you from the site entirely. KPJ was drafted 30th in the the 1st round, not 1st overall.

 

They could sign KPJ to 20m/year and still sign two max players. I feel like I’m living in an alternate universe where the last 10 games of last year never existed. Once Wood was benched Green and Porter were the best offensive backcourt in the nba. No one was even close. It was an absolute historic run. I don’t expect the same every game and they will have their ups and downs, but KPJ and Green are going to be our backcourt until they don’t want to be. All you KPJ haters are going to eat crow on this one, although half will deny they were ever down on him.

 

People clutch their pearls about him having some minor blow ups....as some sort of major issue, when the kid was 19-21 years old and was and is still maturing.

He seems happy, the org is happy, but the fans, well there are always those that think they know better - guilty of that myself on some issues...

Lots of young players have issues.

Jordan punched teamates
Hakeem punched teamates
Barkley tossed a fan through a window
Maxwell punched a fan
Artest punched a fan
Sprewell choked a coach

I mean the list goes on and on, and most are about maturing...hell Hakeem punched other players when he was young......

KPJ will get an extension offer, but it may not be what he is seeking and will be an RFA - the team will have the right to match any offer, but going that route, he might get priced out of here, based upon how he does this year.

Will be interesting.

DD

 

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629645/shots-dash

Looked up some KPJ stats and it’s intriguing.

He touches the ball over 6 seconds 35% of his shots. His FG% goes down the longer he holds the ball.

Over 7 dribbles for over 29% of his shots. Again the less he dribbles the more efficient he is.

Here we see his catch and shoot at 48% although he only does it 14% of the time.

This is why I believe a reduced and simplified role would benefit KPJ. It may be wise for any team that may sign him to put him in a reduced role taking away the playmaking and handling duties which takes away the holding and slowed down offense. His role is quick decisions on offense. Shoot, drive, or rotate that ball.

 

I've said Crawford for a while now. It's so obvious but doubtful he'd be willing to accept that. Only the worst talent evaluators on this board see him as a star

 

His obsession with KPJ is really weird. I bet he has a poster of him on his ceiling

 

Crawford seemed more decisive and efficient though. He was a professional scorer. I would have to look into the stats. But KPJ’s game just seems so erratic and chaotic and somehow he can get you 30 plus at times. Letting him play point probably hasn’t helped his game. There’s just so much unecessary dribbling and wasted motion. Kind of like a boxer swinging too wide or not keeping elbows in etc.

 

I agree. Crawford would be my best case scenario for him. I want to move on from KPJ.

 

Trading Gordon and KPJ for Conley and a pick might be the smartest thing to do. And then developing TyTy behind Conley. Then tank for Victor. Draft Victor, and in one of the next drafts, maybe draft another great PG. Or sign one when one comes up as a FA. Or TyTy becomes great. Or...

I just wouldn't commit huge money to KPJ. Too risky.

 

I would love that trade

 

i like it. Also a nice tradable asset next summer

 

Some of y'all be seriously underrating this dudes talent. Yes he has to mature and he might not but when a kid is this talented you have to give them a chance!

 

There is no all star signing with Houston until we are looking like a contender.

 

If I am Stone and the Rockets I am looking to get a team friendly extension done now. I think you can get KPJ on a reasonable deal now that will probably not be the case next offseason. If he puts up anything resembling the stats he did at the end of the year (24 pts, 8 assists and 6 boards his final 10 games) he will get a big money offer the Rockets will have to seriously consider matching.

 

Seriously lol. Wish the guy would just shut up already