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Akron PD Shooting of Jayland Walker

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  1. pgabriel

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    Police shoot more whites every year. Blacks commit the most murders. When discussing these issues know the facts

    Edit: the media loves racial oppression as a story. Unfortunately everyone is jaded by what drives headlines.

    Do you see whites being shot by cops making headlines? It seems surprising but I attribute it to crimes whites are more likely to commit but regardless the way you shoot off baseless uninformed accusations and statistics unfortunately is more of the norm for this country

    https://www.city-journal.org/police-shootings-and-race-narrative-vs-data

    About a quarter of people shot by the cops are black, which is about double the black share of the overall population—but it’s in line with many other benchmarks you might compare it to, such as the black share of arrestees, or cop-killers, or homicides. In other words, the overall racial breakdown of people shot by police isn’t surprising, given the demographics of crime.
     
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    It's a like a scene from a zombie movie, everyone just emptied their clips.
     
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    Trying to takedown Godzilla
     
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    Local reporting indicates that the police might have been following protocol. The city’s “Police Department’s Vehicle Pursuit Procedure,” updated in 2020, states that initiating a chase “must be based on the pursuing officer’s reasonable belief that the immediate danger to the officer and the public created by the pursuit is less than the immediate or potential danger to the public should the suspect remain at large.”

    There are different ways to interpret that. And the U.S. Department of Justice added to the confusion in a memo issued last May saying that “Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.”

    But there is one big question unanswered at this point: “Having that many officers firing at one person, that’s reckless and that endangers other people,” Samuel Walker, a criminal justice professor at the University of Nebraska, said in a recent interview about the case. “If the shooting is justified by the facts, you don’t need to fire 60, or 30, or even 20 shots.”

    How are law enforcement officers supposed to balance these various considerations—do you chase a fleeing suspect in the moment, or let him or her go and then serve a warrant later? (The video has the vehicle’s plate number; not giving chase does not mean letting a suspect get away clean.) Where does danger to the officer and public from the chase outweigh danger to the public if the suspect is not immediately apprehended?

    And what sort of reasonable standard would view officers who had just been shot at as acting irresponsibly in thinking that a suspect still in the process of fleeing might not still be armed?

    It’s all hard stuff.

    Sometimes the cops are obviously in the right. Sometimes they’re obviously in the wrong. And sometimes the right and the wrong are so twisted together as to not really exist independently.

    The killing of Jayland Walker doesn’t feed anyone’s narrative. And admitting that is the first step toward being realistic about law enforcement and public safety.

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    So do we actually know if he fired a gun?

    Because that video is very hazy and why would you just fire one time and stop and then leave the gun in the car?
     

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