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There isn't going to be a starting "PG" on this team - Get used to it

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Jul 10, 2022.

  1. saleem

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    Thanks.
     
  2. saleem

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    Let's not be that pessimistic about his future. He's working hard and he's maturing slowly.
     
  3. D-rock

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    Iso heavy offense is Silas preferred offense.

    Wall and Dipo did the same. So does Green.

    Yet the complaints are only towards KPJ (now that Wood gone).
     
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    KPJ with high usage is not a good offense. Complaints are warranted. He doesn't see the court well. His stats may not show it, but you can see it on the court.
     
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    The premise of this thread is speculative, it presumes KPJ will be here past this season...and that he is the long term starter at 1. Both are open questions.
     
  6. D-rock

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    Just saying CF has a clear bias against certain players.

    Because these players play style do not fit their perceived aesthetic.

    It has nothing to do with actual production, its emotional, based on their eye test.
     
  7. saleem

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    The only reason why Dirk has a title is because of Kidd 's passing and Tyson Chandler's defense. He collapsed like a pack of cards immediately after Tyson left the team.
    Lebron is a superstar scorer but he is an excellent passer. I agree with you about the rest of them. Luka is a bit like Lebron. He might make it if he remains fit and if he gets more complementary players.
     
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    I personally don't think KPJ is a selfish player. In fact I thought he tried very hard to be a facilitator last year, it's just the results ended up really bad because his vision and passing are just not very good. His high turnover games usually resulted from him over dribbling and then making a bad pass/read.

    When they switched him off the primary ball duties more and just let him score/attack without hesitation, he put up better numbers.
     
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    We are about to be in the same issue, during harden's first years when he had no PG with all these people who want KPJ gone.
     
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    I’m not sure that’s Silas’ preferred offense, but could be a result of personnel. I think the addition of Jabari and Sengun developing could change things a bit. I think the defense is going to create way more transition opportunities. We will see. If our defense is not at least top 20 this year, Silas has to go. Eason needs to be knock down from the corner and that will open up the drive/dish game for Green and KPJ. Tate has to stop ball stopping. I hope sooner than later he is a valuable bench player, but I’m sure Eason is going to get the Sengun treatment.
     
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    Yes because kpj is tasked with running the offense and Green and Dipo arent/weren't. Wall despite his flaws has a much higher understanding of running an offense. Fair or not KPJs game as it stands now doesn't mesh well with his role imo
     
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    He literally quit in the middle of a game lol
     
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    Very succinctly and well put
     
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    I didn't say, he didn't. He's making amends and playing hard on both ends unlike Wood.
     
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    I'm coming around to the idea of not having a traditional pg starting for this particular nucleud... BUT a pass oriented PG has to be on the roster and have productive, meaningful minutes ( hopefully TyTy ).. otherwise our young, thin 2nd unit gonna have a "get theirs" mentality when on the floor .. Gonna be down big in the 4th if that continues to happen.. Then it's showtime for Green and KPJ .. big meaningless stats incoming!
     
  16. saleem

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    That's true. I do think his scoring efficiency is likely to go up and that should make things easier for him defensively. I think he will develop chemistry with Eason quicker than Jabari. His assists will probably be around 7 a game in the upcoming season.
     
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    While I agree he is not an elite pure PG who will ever average close to 10 assists/game, I feel people are overstating the usage and ball dominance. He usage rate last was in the same ball park of guys like Bam Adenabayo, Fred Van Fleet, Kyle Kusma, and Jrue Holiday. Yet he had a top 20 team assist percentage in the league and only second on team to Schroder.

    Yes he definitely turns the ball over way way too much. But I feel the lack of vision and TO's are just as much a product of very simplistic, easily defended offense system, and a group of mostly younger players trying to adjust to the NBA. Plus getting better at limiting TO's is a common issue/learning step for most young players with the ball.

    He will never be a pure PG, but he still has a reasonable shot to be a solid contributor in the guard rotation for contender. It will depend heavily on him maturing some this off season and Silas actually installing a good offensive system. I'm not saying either of those things are a certainty. But the Rockets have time to make that gamble.
     
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    If Silas has the ability to manage a rotation at least 2 of our starters should be on the floor at all times. We are young, but 10 deep or so. This is all about maturing into a team as opposed to a bunch of individual performers and it is up to the coaching staff to make this happen. Stone is giving them the tools and will add more next year. If we don’t see marked TEAM improvement (not necessarily wins) then something really needs to be done. I’m hoping Silas gets it together and the new coaches make a real defensive impact.
     
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    It normally only works if your offensive sets/schemes help create easy shots and make reads easy for the players. This is the major prove it opportunity for Silas.
     
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  20. saleem

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    TyTy has to become that man and I think he will. It will take time though. We have to be patient. Nix has to step up too.
     
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