I think you're at that self-examination existential phase. You know that nothing is black and white, right? Nothing is binary in real life. It's not all or nothing. Put these crazy thoughts on the back burner and let your subconscious work it out and focus on the positive.
if they claimed to be straight and a nazi and pro rape of LGBT folks, they would get absolutely zero empathy here. They would be greeted with a **** storm of hate, which they should. However, since they are a conflicted trans person, empathy pours in. Its all a game.
It's not about them being trans. The poster said they were bipolar / depressed / suicidal. That's where empathy comes in, if you choose to believe them.
I fully disagree. The fake empathy comes from people who think they are “woke” but instead are stupid. There is no empathy for this person here, really. Its all just a game for idiots. Someone tells me they are a nazi, I don’t give a **** if they are “depressed”. **** Nazi’s. Skin color, sexual preference, gender identity etc does not matter at that point.
Yeah, the thing is that if it is true, you don't want to err on the side of not being extra kind. Nobody wants to feel guilty if the person does something to herself/himself (or even to others). But then again, I don't think anyone should have to, either way. Many of us have been rude to each other on here many times. Whether someone gets violent against himself or others in real life, you can't really blame other people's posts on a message board for that, one way or another. So if someone says they are having problems, in a weird way, it shields them from the pushback they would normally deserve for their opinions and attitude. It's like giving yourself carte blanche to do and say even the most outrageous crap, just because you say you are having problems or you belong to some minority group. Happens in real life, too.
OK. I disagree. If you think someone is at high-risk for self-harm, and can't think of something kind or helpful to say, then don't say anything. Not hard.
The empathy expressed here is an act, not so much the OP. Although I do agree that it is a cry for attention. so yeah. An act on both sides.
I mostly agree, and I think I have been rather muted in my responses to this poster, even though I got personally attacked by the poster several times. What exactly do you disagree with?
I appreciate your restraint. I haven't been attacked. If I was attacked, my level of "empathy" might be different. Can't deny that. Just the idea that one shouldn't feel any responsibility for saying something triggering to someone they know to be at high risk of self-harm (or, harm to others, which I hope isn't the case here).
Well, that's a tricky one, isn't it, because by that logic - as I wrote - people can use the (implicit) threat of self-harm to be a total d******d towards everyone as much as they want, and everyone else has to take it. Doesn't feel right either.
It seems like the unhinged messages come in late at night, he is very lucid during the day....I am guessing maybe he is drinking and then decides to post and it doesn't turn out well. I wish him all the luck in the world and please get some help
My empathy is an act? Bullshit. i had a friend commit suicide as well as another person I met and spoke with on many occasions. One of our good friends is the executive director of SAVE and one of the leading suicide experts (for lack of a better word) in the country. My son has had a handful of viewers contact him contemplating suicide. One gave him credit for him not going through with it. So regardless if someone is a troll, I'll choose to err on the side of caution, be empathetic and put them in contact with SAVE.
If this was a straight white man claiming to be a depressed nazi loving rape advocate, there would be no empathy. Zero. Its all a game. In fact, many here would tell him to kill himself. All a game. sorry ROCKSS, I didn’t mean to also quote you
Well...if a straight, white, male who claims to be a depressed nazi loving rape advocate posts stuff showing suicidal tendencies, I'lll refer him to SAVE as well and suggest he seek help. I would not advocate him killing himself. CF Hint (you can edit your post and remove ROCKSS quote).
Maybe you wouldn’t be one of those that would advocate suicide. I don’t believe that your reaction would be the same though. Maybe suicide hits close to home with you (me too, you arent the only one) and thats where you draw the line. I know if this person was claiming to be a straight white man, and then said all that awful stuff, the reaction on this board would be much much different.
Nah, OP isn't the first one on here to post while intoxicated with cries for attention and some of those posters have had history of being dicks too. People on here are usually good at directing those posters to professional help or their stories surrounding recovery. Dajuice is a long time member, and I do want to see all clutchfans work out for the better. I'm far away, so I'm not going to physically give my coat off my back for them to wear, but like others have said, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for personal reasons and because if it is just about "being taken for a sucker" online, it's not really a big deal being wrong rather than maintaining the pride of being right. Way different than an online debate because the person does have clear issues and has suffered through them on here for years. This whole hate speech crap is new and unsettling, and honestly I don't know how to react or to reach.
lashing out is for your new eyes, not these true lies be grateful you're not built and pigmented like House from Police Academy and could even entertain this new presentation for anything other than a Norbit or Precious screen test, go find a Hagatha for your Queen's Quest, a Palais Royal store card and zhoosh it up for the Tiktok lip-synch
