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The Rockets tried to trade up to the #1 pick

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Jul 7, 2022.

  1. xtruroyaltyx

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    I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around it.

    If Jabari was their top guy all along but they were ok with staying put at three and taking the chance Paolo got past OKC, why would the magic taking Paolo trigger them to engage in trade talks for the first pick?

    Why wouldn't they have tried to trade up for the top pick way earlier in the process?

    If this is true, to me, it sounds like they actually wanted Paolo...

    If they were always ok with taking whoever fell to them at three, and now there was a chance their top guy Jabari would be on the board, why try a last minute trade up?
     
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    OKC could have taken Paolo at 2.
     
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  3. REEKO_HTOWN

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    This says nothing about where the Rockets had Paolo or Jabari. It says everything about what they thought about Chet. The Rockets will never admit where they had Paolo because of what that would look like for Jabari since he's here now.

    The Rockets did say they had Jabari #1 on their board. The Magic didn't do the trade because they weren't sure if the Rockets would be honest and take Jabari #1.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    That is not what the article says, they had to reach out to Jabari's agent to get his records......AFTER they learned Banchero was going first......why would they make an offer for number 1, if they intended to take a guy that they didn't even have his records yet?

    DD
     
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    Chris Haynes tweeted, then deleted that the Thunder were drafting Jabari while they were “on the clock”. I believe the Rockets having no access to Chet’s medicals was a legit concern.
     
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    meh…whatever

    we got our guy in the end
     
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  7. Verbal Christ

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    Sure seems like Paolo was the prize. Magic wasted no time in making the pick and rebuffed Stone for whatever he was offering. Jabari being #1 on Stones board after the fact just seems like the typical GM jargon in these positions to keep things positive and everyone involved comfortable with the selection.
     
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  8. kjayp

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    Oh... so the Rox had concerns about Chet's health without the benefit of a thorough evaluation...
    So they were cool with either Paolo or Jabari - but were wary of Chet...
    gee... what a logical opinion and view to have!

    @YOLO - did you want to continue our debate from yesterday? lol
     
  9. xtruroyaltyx

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    Right. That's what it sounds like to me.


    I don't agree with that assessment.

    First of all, the article doesn't say anything about how they felt about Chet other than not having his medicals being a concern.

    Also, even before the magic decided to take Paolo, there was a chance the Thunder could have taken him over Chet had Jabari gone number one.

    There was always the chance Chet would be the third guy there. If they wanted to avoid him that badly, why not try to trade up much earlier in the process?

    If the Rockets had Jabari at 1, Paolo going first shouldn't have triggered the Rox to try to trade up.
     
  10. kjayp

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    because nobody was sure that OKC would take Chet - given the misinformation concerning Orlando and Jabari - you couldnt take anything as a given... imo it sounds like Orlando didnt want to gamble on possibly having to take Chet at 3 either...
     
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    Honestly I would be too if I didn't get Chet's medical reports until last minute. We were plagued with injury prone stars, we have every right to be cautious
     
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    I’m getting the sense Jabari was on top of the rockets board all along, but in the end they settled on Paolo being there at 3. They were worried about Chet, as anyone would be, and had no access to his medicals so they had written him off the board. They were firmly happy with selecting Paolo, then when Orlando swerved on what everyone expected they wanted to make sure they got either Jabari or Paolo and ended up with their top guy in the end. I imagine it was similar when at 26 I bet they would’ve taken Tyty, but got word he would be available a few picks later so traded back and watched him fall into our laps
     
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    pretty clear chet and his camp knew he wasn't falling to the rockets so i mean not much of a "debate"

    what's funny is how this article can be spun into whatever narrative you want to believe. perfect example going on in this thread
     
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    Right.

    I'm fine with how it all turned out. Jabari is our guy.

    But if the Rockets did want to trade up at the last minute I have a hard time believing it was for anyone except Paolo.
     
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    To believe all of that you'd have to believe that the Rockets could read the board perfectly from picks 26 through 29 AND anticipated that no other team would trade up in-between them in that range to take TyTy, but were waaay off base at what was happening just one pick ahead of them at #2.
     
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    Paolo the only one that didn’t get the memo that he was #1 on everyone’s board, LOL
     
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    No man... You spent yesterday giving me crap for not being onboard with Chet - due to my 'irrational' concerns over his body holding up...
    Then you turned it into some litmus test on Wamby...

    Well - THERE! Our team's brain trust apparently had the SAME concerns I did - and wanted no piece of Chet as a top 3 pick!

    and NO, its not "whatever narrative you want to believe" - it straight up says they were good with Jabai or Paolo - but didnt want Chet due to not having reviewed his medicals... how r u spinning that?

    Let's see if you have any class regarding your reply!
     
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  18. TriumVirate

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    This was definitely a possibility. Magic told Jabari they were going to draft him and they picked someone else. Thunder could've done the same. This isn't the first time a team told a player they would draft him and end up picking someone else.
     
  19. YOLO

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    yeah so what. bothered you that much that it carried over 24 hrs later. look at you now

    actually Chet and his camp pretty much knew he wasn't falling past okc so they didn't care about the rockets at 3
     
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    This is media bullshit. Tim McMahon who works for ESPN releases a disingenuous, piece meal, magic fluff piece, the day that that the #1 and #3 picks play their first NBA minutes against each other. And it reads as if ORL GM Weltmen wrote the damn article!? Oh... and guess who is televising the game?

    This is nothing more than a cover story for ORL's ineptitude and manufacture drama for content televising tonight.

    There is no story when you consider ORL "played poker" with the league, Rox included, for what? They had the overall #1 and they refused all alleged trades. That's not poker, that's solitaire.
     

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