PHX: KD BK: Spida, EG, KJM, 2 first round picks Utah: 4 draft picks (2 unprotected PHX), M Bridges… Houston: DeAndre Ayton
LOL, I just got done spelling out for you how that literally never happened....and I think at this point you know that even if you aren't the brightest peanut in the turd. I'll take this as you admitting to being intentionally dishonest, which was always the most likely situation to begin with.
I agree and disagree. Sengun will be a first time starter basically after a season where he played like 20 mpg. He hasn’t turned 20 yet (though will before the season starts). Jabari Smith I think just turned 19. KPJ is someone to be both excited about and cautious about. I love the off-season excitement around him now 2 yes in a row. I actually am more fine with his “attitude” than most. He seems like a genuinely decent dude who wants to get better and win and sometimes that has gotten the better of him with a couple issues but nothing I’d describe as major since he joined the Rockets. But the KPJ PG experiment to me remains an experiment. as does the Silas experiment. JG is the real point. If he’s going to come out and be generational and take that year 2 step - mid 20s per game, consistent defensive effort… then sure maybe they can get past all that other stuff and compete for a play-in. even the clear generational greats like Luka missed playoffs year one. Luka made it year 2, as did Trae and Ja (Ja had that extra year of college). Of note a lot of these guys were the last pick added ala Mobley more than the first. Not Luka but he’s clearly generational. Memphis was already rebuilding. Hawks were already rebuilding. Don’t even start with Tatum who licked into that situation. JG was literally the first high lotto pick the Rockets have had since Yao. point being… if JG and Smith are both the real deal, if Sengun and KPJ are the real deal, if Jaygup and Eason are “real deal role players”, if Silas gets his **** together…. Basically if everything turns out roses, then they probably make a play-in game at best which they could win. They could still miss the play in game and almost all be the real deal in the long run but maybe Silas isn’t up for the task. Maybe one of the 4 guys isn’t the real deal which would be disappointing but not really say that much about the long term trajectory here… batting 100% is almost impossible. you have to learn to win as well.
Even if the get Mitchell in a three team deal, they will only have Mitchell and a lot of role players, I don't think Mitchell is good enough to lead a team of just him and a ton of role players to the playoffs with how the east is getting better and better.
LOL. So you never compared Green to Corey Brewer's potential then? Stop lying, the whole board remembers your claims. It was premature and turned out to be incorrect. Move on from your mistake, it happens.
I don't think it takes all of that though to contend for the play in game. Last year I don't think the team was as bad as their record indicated. They were intentionally tanking and they had a lot of things going on that added to the struggles. Jalen Green played like one of the worst players in the league for half the season till he figured it all out towards the end of the year, how many games did that cost the Rockets? KPJ struggled early as well, same story. Dealing with all of the Christian Wood BS cost the team at least a few games. Having Silas nail Sengun to the bench for no reason cost the team at least a few games Having everyone trying to figure out how to play next to one another probably cost the team a few games. A lot of those issues won't exist this season. Smith should be a much better fit than Wood ever was and getting rid of the micro ball BS and going with Smith and Sengun should greatly benefit the team as well. I just don't think it would take everything going right for the team to be in a position to potentially win 35 games and their ceiling should be in the low 40's if everything goes well.
And? Like I said, the Nets are going for the Rocket's pre-Harden era special. It's a win for the Rockets, but let's just be realistic that the Nets will be mediocre at best for the foreseeable future or possibly even be low ceiling playoff team.
if Utah were able to squeeze 4 unprotected frp for freaking Gobert what makes you think they will take 4 protected picks for mitchell who’s twice the player
I go back and forth on how the Rockets will fare this year. On the one hand, I think they have the talent to make a run at the play-in just because their defense and, thus, their transition offense has the potential to be incredible. On the other hand, they are super young and I’m not even sure the FO wants them to win this year. Then there is Silas. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m afraid he is a terrible coach.
LOL, kid I JUST got done spelling it out for you yet again! LOL Try your best to read that again and see if any of it sinks in. Maybe read slowly, sound the words out if you have to. Good luck!
i think the fact we’re talking about it and both right means it’s one of those maybe maybe no thing. until we see Ainge’s full plan with the Jazz the only team in the west actively looking to be worse is the Spurs. Almost shoe-ins: Suns Nuggets Grizzlies Warriors Mavs Clippers (assuming health) TWolves (big overpay but hard to see how they’re not better) One of those is already a playin team. Then there’s NOP I put them alone cause they can easily go in that top tier. EASILY. But I dont trust Zion will play till he plays. That’s 8. that leaves Kings, Lakers, Portland these teams DEFINITELY want to make the playoffs. then the Jazz - I personally don’t see them making it with or without trading Mitchell. The Spurs are trying not to make it. finally HOU and OKC. NBA twitter LOVES the OKC drafting… idk. Seems similar to Houston to me except OKC more actively tries to tank. so let’s say OKC, Spurs, Jazz definite misses. HOU has to beat out one of the Kings, Lakers or Blazers. It’s possible. Just I will in no way he upset if it doesn’t happen and instead they are in the bottom group… AS long as there is great progress otherwise along the way.
I've followed along ever since the draft. You made a dumb, premature comparison that turned out to be wrong. Here's you after just 9 games into Jalen Green's rookie season.... 9 games: It was always a stupid comparison because you never liked drafting Green. It was always transparent that you let your emotions take over. You couldn't wait more than 10 games before tossing out Corey Brewer into a Jalen Green thread. Your comparison turned out to be very stupid. What was the point of bringing up Corey Brewer, if not to compare them?
This just shows more of your lack of reading comprehension skills....even after I spelled out for you what was being said. If you had the self awareness required, you'd probably be embarrassed.
while mitchell is a lot younger and has some potential left still, he's never been even close to as good as rudy and unlikely will ever put up any season that rivals rudy's best
I'm not concerned if the team fails to make the play in game, I just think that they should be in the running for it and should win a minimum of 30 games. I'll be upset if that doesn't happen without some major reasons for it. I think there's basically no way they can show the kind of progress I'm looking for without accidentally winning 10 more games than they did last season while intentionally tanking.
What is there to comprehend.. you only waited 9 games to invoke the name of Corey Brewer in the context of Jalen Green.
they’ve been 27th and 29th in DRtg the last two years. I get that things can change fast as personnel is key and anyone upset by the draft mixup should immediately get the f over that because Bari and Tari are two of the best college defenders you’ll see. But hard to see it happen overnight. i think people underestimate the Silas impact too. Love the guy… as a guy. I’ve yet to see a single thing that says to me he can Put together a coherent offensive or defensive scheme. Silas and year2 JG will be the biggest things determining their w/l next year imo. I have way more faith in JG than Silas. But I will still give Silas the benefit of the doubt. The situation has been f’d up since the second he got here and while there’s been little to no coherent nba schemes… and while we’ve complained throughout on how he’s gone about development… he has developed the young ones. he said himself basically a few days/weeks ago that he didn’t really have any meaningful defensive scheme in place and was going to be installing something more complex this off-season. we shall see
I spelled out to you several times what there was to comprehend, but you failed....because apparently hooked on phonics didn't work for you quite as well as advertised. Anyway, you've embarrassed yourself enough for now. I'm sure you'll be back repeating the same ignorance many more times in the future....but for now stop attempting to derail the thread with your idiocy.
Then just admit your comparison was premature and wrong so the forum can move on. It was incredibly embarrassing to invoke the Corey Brewer comparison only 9 games into a rookie's season. I can understand why you are sensitive and bashful after being so incredibly wrong.
