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[OFFICIAL] 4TH OF JULY LET'S BRING ON THE LIBERAL WORLD ORDER discussion thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jul 2, 2022.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    I know many of us are pleased that the United States has announced its intention to export American values to the rest of the less enlightened world. But what's less clear is HOW this will happen.

    Consider this an all-purpose thread to discuss this important geopolitical moment. What a time to be alive!
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    With the Raetheon r9x knife missile.
     
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    I agree Brian Deese could've stated it better but the "liberal order", emphasis on small "l" is about the expansion of human rights, democracy and global trade. I keep on hearing many Conservatives claim they really are "Clasic Liberals" so why shouldn't they be for things like that?
     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    and restraints on government power. Doesn't sound like the Liberal New World Order is about restraints on government power. or did I miss that part?
     
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    The Bezos' and Elons' will get there first, and at that point, you won't have to worry about government restraints.
     
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    It certainly is about restraining the power of authoritarian governments.
     
  7. MojoMan

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    Is it about "Restraints on government power." Bwahahahahahaha!

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    The context of it being said was in regards to Russia invading Ukraine so I think not letting a country violently invade another country fits into restraining government power yeah

    I think asking you to understand context is a big ask though, sorry
     
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    It is about restraining the power of all governments and subjugating them ultimately to the WEF orchestrated vision of what this white house spokesman refers to as the new 'Liberal World Order'.

    "The Great Reset," which was standing by and ready for implementation when the coronavirus hysteria, was initiated early in the 2020 presidential primary election process, at the point when the establishment left and the WEF crowd had come to realize that Trump was likely to win reelection. Perhaps that was just an extraordinary coincidence. Perhaps not. It is a wrecking ball and we are being wrecked by it right now on numerous fronts.

    For example (there are a many others) the Democrat left's insidious abuse of federal agency power, without debate or congressional approval, to shut down oil and gas production and processing in this country, including gasoline and diesel refining, is largely to blame for the high costs of gas and diesel. It will be very likely be effectively impossible to significantly reduce the prices of these products to consumers without aggressively reversing course on these decisions.

    Is that likely to happen under this regime, even if it financially devastates more than half the country? No. Because they want to reduce energy consumption by at least an order of magnitude, and to be clear, also the human population of the planet by vast numbers as well. In fact, they believe their target for the human population of the planet is 750 million people. There estimated by the US census bureau to be 7.9 billion people on earth right now.

    If billions of people have to undergo financial devastation and suffering for them to achieve their megalomaniacal aspirations, they are perfectly fine for that. All of those people are expendable and the earth will be a better place with them no longer on it, in those people's views. That is how those people think. They are monsters. They truly are.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    It's not. World is more macro than controlling individual governments.

    What they can do is work together to stop military aggressors with authoritarian governments that invade nations with a free democracy like Ukraine.

    Standing against military aggressors, like Russia that invade democratic nations like Ukraine is something they can do.
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    when in doubt make it an ad hominem ;)

     
  12. MojoMan

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    Zalensky has canceled the opposition parties in Ukraine. Think about that. How conducive to or supportive of democracy is that? Obviously, it is not at all.

    You people do not give a damn about freedom or democracy. Those are just words you use to virtue signal and to try to manipulate people with. All of this kind of talk coming from you people and certainly the corporate media, the white house, NATO and the WEF is entirely untrustworthy on this topic. To be fair, you have to parse out Putin's comments carefully as well, as he has no qualms about promoting propaganda, spinning or lying if he thinks it will help him.

    But at this point, you people are truly unbelievable.
     
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    The OP seems to be conflating “liberal world order” with “new world order”.
     
  15. Os Trigonum

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    fair point, I'll drop the "new"
     
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    The phrase New World Order was originated by President George H.W. Bush, which he first spoke of in a frequently quoted speech from just after the fall of the Soviet Union.

    Know for sure, the Liberal World Order that Dice spoke of in the videos previously quoted is an arrangement that they are working to bring into existence. He is not speaking of the UN, the WTO and the world bank, for example.
     
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    why not both copy.gif
     
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    this should help the "new" part of the liberal world order

    EPA Targets Permian Basin, Widening Biden’s War On Oil And Gas

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidb...ng-bidens-war-on-oil-and-gas/?sh=20d1aba81b89

    excerpt:

    During an interview with Brazil’s Agencia Estadio news service this week, I told the reporter that one of the reasons why I characterized the Biden energy policies as “confused” in a recent story is because we so often see the President saying one thing in public as his appointees in the federal bureaucracy are doing the opposite. We have seen this phenomenon take place repeatedly this year, as Mr. Biden has frequently called for the domestic industry to produce more oil and gas, refine more gasoline and ramp up exports of liquefied natural gas to Europe, while his agencies continue to hold up permitting, issue restrictive new regulations, and issue rulings that directly inhibit companies’ ability to get their business done.

    It happened again this week, when the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced it may soon issue a ruling declaring that vast parts of the Permian Basin are in “non-attainment” status under the agency’s ozone regulations. If such a declaration is made, it will constitute a direct governmental assault on what is by far America’s most active and productive oil-producing region and its second most-productive natural gas area. The Permian currently accounts for fully 43% of total U.S. daily oil production and is home to almost 40% of the nation’s active drilling rigs according to the Enverus daily rig count.

    Thursday’s decision by the Supreme Court of the United States in the West Virginia v. EPA case is not expected to impact the agency’s ability to set standards on ozone levels and enforce them. If anything, it seems likely the agency, at least under a Biden presidency, will seek to become more aggressive in this realm as a backdoor means of continuing to force coal-fired power plants out of business and, as in this case, hamper the domestic oil and gas industry.
    more at the link. any of you Texas oil and gas folks know anything about this? not exactly my area
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    He didn't cancel the neo nazis.
     
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    No, he certainly didn't.
     

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