Oh I know and would love it. but not sure if KD wants to put this young team on his back like that. I feel like he'd be more likely to end up in Miami or in Philly somehow
how is this so? what could they get back that would be better than kyrie and KD if Kyrie opts out? they'd most likely get back a lot of picks which would recoup picks for them, but our picks would get better? What package could they offer that would replace KD? we'd be winning the lottery if Kyrie opts out.
Ayton S&T I don't think will work as 1st year salary will only count for half in trade. Also teams operating above cap cannot accept S&T. Dependent heavily on order or operations here with Kyrie but god awful confusing ugly mess.
Teams trading their superstar never get fair value back in terms of players. Look at what was rumored available for Harden when the Rockets traded him: Herro, Siakim, Simmons, Oladipo, that wasn’t equal value. Basically there is rarely a swap of one great player for another. It’s usually one great player for a young up and coming player or two throw ins and picks. Durant is 32 and injury prone as hell and demanding out. Nets will be lucky to get guys like Herro or Siakim.
that’s exactly what you’re doing Kyrie wanting to leave BK is simply false. He doesn’t. BK doesn’t want to give him the contract he desires because he’s an unreliable headcase, and they have just 1 playoff series win to show for putting up with his nonsense. KD is in BK because of Kyrie. U should probably ask him why he’s so attached to someone who isn’t reliable and poisons every franchise he’s apart of. Nets had built a Big 3 and title contender around KD, but Kyrie ran Harden out of town.
A Durant trade with Phoenix would net Ayton and pretty good fillers plus about 4 picks. A trade with Nola would be a gamble but would net a bunch of picks and Zion. A trade with Miami would net Lowry Herro and 4 picks. Durant is the key here not Irving.
u can’t compare this to Harden…KD has 4 years left while Harden didn’t, and is easily viewed as the better player and easier fit around the league Lucky to get a Siakam or Herro? That’s hyperbole
but how do you know this? can you shoot me a link that shows Kyrie wants to stay there because from his actions it doesn't seem like it. last time he said anything about staying was in april but that hinged on KD. I think both him and KD know the nets as currently constructed aren't going anywhere in the East with Miami, Philly, Milwaukee, and Boston right there. they needed a competent Harden to make noise
On the FRP Shortage, here's the list of teams that I think will have trouble with draft capital for Nets without bringing in other teams to get picks. Nuggets Clippers Lakers Heat (Only one pick traded away, but the protections on the pick mean they only have 2 FRPs they can trade outright along with swaps). Bucks 76ers Jazz (similar to Heat) This isn't to say someone like Herro couldn't be traded in a 3 team deal with pick(s) going to the Nets.
Probably depends on how the dominoes fall in terms of LeBron's team and where Kyrie ends up. If all is fair, i can see KD trying to carry his own team. If Kyrie pulls a chump move to help Bron, pettiness will 100% take KD's talents back to the bay area. He'll actually be 34 for next season and still i'd have to disagree. The talent is too great. Any and every team wants him locked up for 4 years. Herro is not going to stop Riley.
Whatever happens, i know the Rockets need time and the future is bright so as a basketball fan, i want to see either Kyrie and Bron and AD go against Warriors with KD in a WCF for the ages OR i want to see KD with the Heat vs the Warriors(if kyrie doesn't go to la but another team). If Kyrie does go to LA and GS doesn't want KD, i hope KD joins up with Giannis and faces the Lakers in the finals. I just want historic match ups while i know the Rockets wont be in the mix.
How do I know this? It’s been reported by everyone and is pretty apparent. The Nets are not willing to offer Kyrie what he wants. It was once again reiterated by Woj today The Nets have been reluctant to offer Irving a long-term contract, which is what he has wanted to remain with Brooklyn, sources said. Brooklyn seems to want to hold onto leverage with Irving on his contractual status, especially after his lack of availability the past two years. it’s pretty obvious that the Nets only want Kyrie back on a short term deal that’s on their terms while he wants a fully guaranteed max but if u want to let Kyrie and his headcase antics off the hook and get to blaming the Nets, u do u
KD on the Suns would be crazy if Chris Paul still can’t win a title after that, then a Haitian auntie definitely cursed his ass
If they lose Kyrie, then the Nets probably SHOULD make the best deal they possibly can for Durant, and recoup as many assets as possible. Even if Durant wants to stay... Go the "half tank" route of trying to win as many games as possible but still falling in the lottery. Turn the team over to their younger guys, trade off everything they possibly can, and sign scrappers who will play hard. A. It would maximise their current players value as assets - keep making everyone available B. If they win 30 games, their pick swap with Hou in 2023 will still most likely see them get a top 10 pick (in what looks a reasonably strong draft) They can aim to be bad, but better than Houston. If Houston is (say) the 4th worst team, and BKN 10th worst but wins the lottery, they are still improving their pick (painful as it might seem to miss #1) C. They can potentially find themselves with a max cap slot in 2024, and you never know what the landscape might look like for them. D. Get Ben Simmons on the court, producing, and putting up stats. THEN SEND HIM TO LA!!
man you said I'm twisting a story but here you are twisting my posts haha. I never let kyrie off the hook and even called him a headcase earlier in a post you quoted. I'm just not placing 100% of the blame on kyrie while absolving the nets of any wrongdoing/shitty management like you are. the nets dont get that benefit of the doubt based on history and neither does kyrie. that source you quoted could easily just be a nets leak. it's about as big a source as kyrie laughing at being asked if he is going back to BK. proves nothing at all.
