The thing is though I wonder how much this will affect actual abortions in the end because now we have pills. These pills will be coming from Mexico, Canada, etc etc and they will find their way into the hands of women and families that need them. Also, how do you punish a Californian citizen for giving a Lousiana citizen a pill? This is going to be so legally messy. Best believe there will be entire organizations focused on getting these women abortions by any loophole they can find, including paying for their trips out of state. The whole 'states' rights argument will disappear the moment the GOP has majority congress/senate and they'll have to make it federal to stop any abortions. I feel like for the opponents that want to force this ideology down the throats of others they will regret this. They will have scared more people away from their God in the end and will not have stopped many actual abortions, because women that want abortions are desperate for them. As history shows, a woman that wants an abortion is willing to harm herself to do it.
Right. People, especially young people are not going to stop having sex and at times unprotected sex. We are going to see women that would otherwise be socially mobile unable to do so because they are pregnant and have to stop efforts to go to college or give attention to work advancement. We will see people getting married over a pregnancy that otherwise would not, and in many cases these people will not be compatible. We will see men that will be hit for child support, in some cases multiple counts that will be stuck in some degree or poverty. The children of these people will likely end up in poverty and there will be a cheap work force.
unfortunate outcome, but I suspect (I'm still reading it, so don't hold me to this just yet) correctly reasoned
It'll make a big difference. For wealthy people, sure they can figure it out. Whether its illegally buying a medicated abortion or traveling for a surgical one, they can figure it out. But the poor will largely be locked out. A lot of people wouldn't even know where or how to buy the pill. A lot of people don't even know the pill exists. This is why organizations like planned parenthood are so important. Doctors (good ones anyway) will also provide that type of education. Even if they aren't performing abortions, they provide valuable education on options. All of that will be banned so a woman without resources and knowledge will simply have no where to go. People on this forum represent a privileged minority that are educated on the options and likely have the resources to travel. But most of these conservative states will likely prohibit health care providers from even discussing abortion now that it isn't protected.
My guess is this won't affect actual abortions a lot. In very very poor areas, sure, rurual areas, sure, but poor urban areas? I can't see it. Any woman that has access to the internet will know her options. Just like we have sports forums and gun forums and etc etc, women have forums for their issues too. Any woman that has access to the internet is a google search away from learning there is a pill out there for what she needs to do and once she learns that she's likely a few more searches away from learning how to get such pills. We will definitely see a push from various organizations to get this information out to as many women as possible too. While you are right many conservative states will have people that don't know I think people are going to find out very soon there are pills for this, especially when the GOP starts telling people they want to ban such pills.
I mean, there's non-poor people in red states who want/need access to abortion or who just don't want to live in a place where they can be raped and then jailed for murder and sued by their rapist! There's a whole series of chilling effects to consider here beyond just access to reproductive health care.
As anathema as it is to say this as a left leaning person, I tend to agree. The court is going to go through knocking down all of these social liberties that were established by the past courts, because they were never codified into law. This is because our system is designed for gridlock, so getting this through legislation was nigh impossible. This has turned the executive and judiciary into our only functioning law creating bodies. RGB warned that unless all of these things were codified into law that the moment the court started leaning right it would all go up in smoke, and she was right. These decisions are morally bankrupt and will cause untold amounts of human suffering, but they are, by the letter, correct.
those people can just take 3 days PTO, hop on a plane and get care, rest up for a weekend and go back to work. BTW the hero Conservatives never saw coming:
No they are not, you clown. They explicitly gave details in the opinion about NOT doing that. Read the part about the importance of fetal life. Quit trying to lie in order to inflame people.
obviously the court can’t do that but states will and have already started making laws that restrict birth control via mail. This has always been your goal right? Send it back to the states?
