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  1. subtomic

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    Don’t get me wrong - I’d love to see that trade if Sochan, Eason and Jalen Williams are all gone. But Atlanta would only trade him for something that helps them win now and I don’t think anyone at 17 is going to do that. As it is, he’s on a cheap rookie contract for 3 more years which means there’s no pressure to move him whatsoever for a pick.
     
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  2. D-rock

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    Those are my 2 preferences, yes.

    And no gun to head needed. :D

     
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    They can have Tate too.

    Hawks need experienced perimeter defenders and Tate would be great fit.

    Hawks also need an experienced secondary playmaker. Sounds like Tate to me.

     
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    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956721-2022-nba-mock-draft-2-round-predictions-and-latest-buzz

    1. Orlando Magic: Jabari Smith (Auburn, PF, Freshman)
    2. Oklahoma City Thunder: Chet Holmgren (Gonzaga, PF/C, Freshman)
    3. Houston Rockets: Paolo Banchero (Duke, PF, Freshman)
    4. Sacramento Kings: Jaden Ivey (Purdue, G, Sophomore)
    5. Detroit Pistons: Keegan Murray (Iowa, F, Sophomore)

    Updated Top-3 Discussion

    Since lottery night, the assumption around the NBA has been that Orlando will take Smith. That's still whom NBA staffers would bet their money on at No. 1, but we're also hearing from teams that the Orlando Magic isn't out on Holmgren.

    Compared to Smith, Holmgren was far more effective at the rim, and he projects at the higher-impact defender and passer. It's that skinny frame that's the root of scouts' nerves. And teams are still wondering if Holmgren will take a physical.

    Holmgren has also been linked to the Thunder at No. 2, and most around the league are hearing that he'll be the Oklahoma City Thunder's pick if Orlando takes Smith. Meanwhile, there is belief from multiple rival teams that the Thunder figure to be enticed by Ivey as well.

    Almost every scenario has Banchero available to the Houston Rockets at No. 3.

    17. Houston Rockets (via Nets): Ousmane Dieng (New Zealand Breakers, SG/SF, 2003)

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    Don’t have Insider but apparently Banchero/Eason.

    "After watching him train at his home in Memphis and taking him on a one-on-one visit to Houston, #Rockets seems 'high' on Paolo Banchero's talent, skill and fit."

     
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    John Hollinger
    (Previously released Top 20(+3))
    Now his Top 75

    Tier 1: The two biggest fish in a medium-size pond
    1. Jabari Smith Jr. | 6-10 freshman | PF | Auburn
    2. Paolo Banchero | 6-10 freshman | PF | Duke

    Tier II: High ceilings, but more speculative
    3. Jaden Ivey | 6-4 sophomore | SG | Purdue
    4. Chet Holmgren | 7-1 freshman | C | Gonzaga

    Tier III: Reliably solid wings
    5. Bennedict Mathurin | 6-6 sophomore | SF | Arizona
    6. Shaedon Sharpe | 6-6 freshman | SG/SF | Kentucky
    7. Keegan Murray | 6-8 sophomore | SF/PF | Iowa

    Tier IV: Let’s get crazy
    8. Jeremy Sochan | 6-9 freshman | PF | Baylor
    9. Dyson Daniels | 6-6 | SG | G League Elite
    10. Josh Minott | 6-8 freshman | SF/PF | Memphis
    11. Blake Wesley | 6-5 freshman | SG | Notre Dame

    Tier V: Relatively safer and less spectacular
    12. Jalen Duren | 6-11 freshman | C | Memphis
    13. A.J. Griffin | 6-6 freshman | SG | Duke
    14. TyTy Washington | 6-3 freshman | PG | Kentucky
    15. Kendall Brown | 6-8 freshman | SF | Baylor
    16. Tari Eason | 6-7 sophomore | SF | LSU
    17. E.J. Liddell | 6-7 junior | PF | Ohio State
    18. Dalen Terry | 6-7 sophomore | SF | Arizona
    19. Mark Williams | 7-0 sophomore | C | Duke
    20. Jake LaRavia | 6-9 junior | PF | Wake Forest

    Tier VI: My three sleeper shooting guards
    21. Ryan Rollins | 6-4 sophomore | SG | Toledo
    22. Wendell Moore | 6-5 junior | SG | Duke
    23. Jalen Williams | 6-6 junior | SG | Santa Clara

    Tier VII: The upside plays
    24. Ousmane Dieng | 6-8 | SF | New Zealand Breakers
    25. Malaki Branham | 6-4 freshman | SG | Ohio State
    26. Kennedy Chandler | 6-0 freshman | PG | Tennessee
    27. Justin Lewis | 6-6 sophomore | SF | Marquette
    28. Julian Champagnie | 6-6 junior | SF | St. John’s

    Tier VIII: Soooo many shooting guards
    29. Johnny Davis | 6-4 sophomore | SG | Wisconsin
    30. Trevor Keels | 6-3 freshman | SG | Duke
    31. Christian Braun | 6-6 junior | SG | Kansas
    32. Dereon Seabron | 6-5 sophomore | SG | NC State
    33. Gabriele Procida | 6-6 | SG | Fortitudo Bologno
    34. Ochai Agbaji | 6-5 senior | SG | Kansas

    Tier IX: The weirdos
    35. Nikola Jović | 6-10 | PF| Mega Basket
    36. Kenneth Lofton Jr. | 6-6 junior | PF | Louisiana Tech
    37. Walker Kessler | 7-0 sophomore | C | Auburn
    38. Ziga Samar | 6-4 | SG/PG | Fuenlabrada
    39. John Butler | 7-0 freshman | SF | Florida State
    40. David Roddy | 6-5 junior | PF | Colorado State
    41. MarJon Beauchamp | 6-5 | PF | G League Ignite
    Tier X: Disappointing one-and-dones
    42. JD Davison | 6-3 freshman | PG | Alabama
    43. Jean Montero | 6-3 | PG | Overtime Elite
    44. Caleb Houstan | 6-8 freshman | SF | Michigan
    45. Bryce McGowens | 6-5 freshman | SG | Nebraska
    46. Peyton Watson | 6-7 freshman | SF | UCLA
    47. Max Christie | 6-4 freshman | SG | Michigan State
    48. Patrick Baldwin | 6-9 | SF | Wisconsin-Milwaukee
    49. Jaden Hardy | 6-4 | SG | G League Ignite
    Tier XI: Some more bigs
    50. Ismael Kamagate |6-11 | C | Paris Basketball
    51. Christian Koloko | 6-11 junior | C | Arizona
    52. Jaylin Williams | 6-9 sophomore | C | Arkansas
    53. Kofi Cockburn | 6-11 junior | C | Illinois

    Tier XII: The best of the rest
    53. Andrew Nembhard | 6-3 senior | PG | Gonzaga
    54. Jabari Walker | 6-7 sophomore | PF | Colorado
    55. Luke Travers | 6-7 | SF | Perth Wildcats
    56. Dom Barlow | 6-9 | PF | Overtime Elite
    57. Matteo Spagnolo | 6-4 | SG | Vanoli Cremona
    58. Jamaree Bouyea | 6-0 | PG | San Francisco

    Tier XIII: My top two-way guys
    59. Tyrese Martin | 6-6 senior | SG | Connecticut
    60. Iverson Molinar | 6-2 junior | PG | Mississippi State
    61. Darius Days | 6-6 senior | PF | LSU
    62. Isaiah Mobley | 6-10 junior | C | USC
    63. Keon Ellis | 6-4 senior | SG | Alabama
    64. Aminu Mohammed | 6-4 freshman | SG | Georgetown
    65. Tevin Brown | 6-5 senior | SG | Murray State
    66. Hyunjung Lee | 6-7 junior | SF | Davidson
    67. Jordan Hall | 6-7 sophomore | SF | St. Joseph’s
    68. Grayson Murphy | 6-3 senior | PG | Belmont
    69. Scotty Pippen Jr. | 6-0 junior | PG | Vanderbilt
    70. Alondes Williams | 6-4 junior | PG | Wake Forest
    71. Michael Foster | 6-8 | PF/C | G League Ignite
    72. Justin Bean | 6-7 senior | PF | Utah State
    73. Orlando Robinson | 6-10 junior | C | Fresno State
    74. Kam McGusty | 6-4 senior | SG | Miami
    75. Bryson Williams | 6-9 senior | PF | Texas Tech
     
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    Hollinger has really lost his touch.

    Hardy, Jovic, Agbaji falling out of first round?

    Mark Williams drafted after EJ Liddell, Kendall Brown, Dalen Tery???

     
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    Yeah, how dare he go against consensus! Not like consensus is ever wrong. Like that one time he went with Barnes at #2 last year, totally lost his touch and clueless!
     
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    So other than Barnes, which I agreed with, what percentage did he actually get right?

    LOL
     
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    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...-surprise-prospect-jumping-into-top-five/amp/

    Newest CBS mock draft just came out. Most notably - Sochan at #6, Shaedon Sharpe falling to 10, Jalen Duren falling to the Bulls at 18 and Rockets passing on him for Dalen Terry. Mark Williams falls to 23 and the rockets snag Wendell Moore at 26 which I’m honestly not that opposed to. Are these guys even trying to be realistic here or is the controversy influencing the almighty click more important… Duren at 18? I’ll have to see it to believe it.
     
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    NO WAY Jovic falls to #35. He's top 10 talent that could be had mid first round imo. He might be the highest "value" pick based on ceiling and draft position.
     
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    EJ Liddell can play, both offense and defense.

    Mark Williams is most defense. Capela-like. But you can't teach height.
     
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    I feel like that 10-12 range is huge. Murray, Sharpe, Daniels, Mathurin gets u to 8. It’s possible that Griffen, Sochan, Duren and Mark Williams are available in that range.
     
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    Don't know about top 10 but he's consensus top 20, maybe even lottery.
     
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    Sharpe categorized under "Reliably solid wings" is worth a chuckle as well.
     
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    35 is way too low, I agree. I'm thinking more like 26.

    Yeah, exactly 26...
     
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    Did Dieng workout with us? From news floating around. Sacramento is lending toward Murray over Ivey. Pacers not going anywhere. I'll be surprise they pass up on Sharpe. Duren doesn't seem like the guy Spurs would pick. 6 more days to go. Can't wait.
     
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    Blake Wesley? Almost every most mock have have him in late first round. You never know. Primo wasn't in the green room and Spurs took him last year. Looking back in 2019 draft. All those mock draft have Jordan Poole going from mid 2nd round to undrafted. And GSW drafted him in first round.
     
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    Sharpe is definitely not reliable wing. He's more on high upside high risk.
     
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