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Who do you want at 3?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, May 17, 2022.

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Who do you want at #3?

  1. P. Banchero

    334 vote(s)
    75.2%
  2. J. Ivey

    47 vote(s)
    10.6%
  3. S, Sharpe

    10 vote(s)
    2.3%
  4. Other (Say in post)

    23 vote(s)
    5.2%
  5. Trade for #1

    30 vote(s)
    6.8%
  1. KingSamJack

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    I want Paolo but my god Chet's basketball IQ is amazing
     
  2. RasaqBoi

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    Chet - “Yeeeeuhhhh”
     
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  3. J Sizzle

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    The 3 guys you theoretically are building around being minus defenders is not ideal. I think Green will end up being solid enough defensively long term, but Sengun and Banchero I'm less confident in.

    Again, I want Paolo at 3 for sure because of his passing ability and his likely ascent offensively, but I do hesitate on his long term fit with Sengun, unless we draft a pure defensive center similar to Capela. Kind of why I want us to trade up for Mark Williams.
     
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  4. dmoneybangbang

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    But how do we know these rookies (two will be sophomores) will always be minus defenders?

    Why do we assume Sengun will be a starter and not a 6th man running the bench with his passing?

    Seems we are making a lot of assumptions early on. I just feel like we need to accumulate as much talent as possible while we still have our draft picks. The fit will sort itself out over time.

    We aren’t going to fix our defensive issues through one draft.
     
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  5. r-fan-since-81

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    Wow! Chet sliding to 3 would be dream come true. I would love to get some Holmgren on our Rocks.

    1,2 or 3....cant go wrong.

    Great Interview Thank you for posting.
     
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  6. MaxRider

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    Chet is still my #1 pick and I don't mind any of the top 3. I like Ivey, but we desperate need someone taller than 6'6" playing PF.
     
  7. verysimplejason

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    Taller isn't the answer. Rockets need more defense. Someone who can take bigs and can keep up with smalls.
     
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  8. D-rock

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    YOU are the one who said you were building around those 3 players, not @J Sizzle.

    Length + past production + lateral agility are traits traditionally utilized to project defense at NBA level.

     
  9. D-rock

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    Tall is good but long is better.
     
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  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Actually I was responding to JSizzle's assertion about defense. Obviously Green and Sengun are out best prospect on the roster and whoever we take at #3.

    Are we bad on defense because our prospects are inherently bad at defense or because they are young and inexperienced? Will Green and Sengun always be bad on defense or can they be average? Will Paolo always be bad on defense or can he be average. What about team defense? So many pointless assumptions when we just need to get talent.

    If you could actually stop playing gotcha..... my entire theme is that we shouldn't be making assumptions about fit and defense. I even suggested Sengun being a 6th man..... do we build around 6th man type of players?
     
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  11. D-rock

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    They are bad at defense for different reasons:

    Green - below average in switch, lack of length, poor team defense IQ, new to effort defense - not a priority in HS or G League

    Sengun - below average in switch, not plus lateral agility/athleticism, length not elite

    Banchero - average in switch, length not elite, poor in PnR defense, lost on rotations, not engaged

     
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  12. dmoneybangbang

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    So then they will never improve or become at least average? Banchero will always be "not engaged"? Green will never improve team defensive IQ?

    You are saying they are inherently bad at defense and can never be average? Never play team competent team defense?
     
  13. D-rock

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    LMAO

    Who's saying they'll never be average or will not improve?

    Speaking for myself, I'd rather acquire already elite or plus defenders. These guys can improve too amirite?

     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    LMAO. Well I am trying to figure out your point and why you decided to respond to me? Basing decisions on the level of our prospects' defense in their rookie and sophomore seasons seems foolish, especially when we are still rebuilding.

    The Rockets should pick the best player with the most potential at #3, not aim for the best defensive player with the third pick. If Chet falls to #3 then we should grab Chet or Jabari.

    We also don't have to rely on the draft for defense. Who knows how many of our current players will still be on this team when they are actually competing.
     
  15. verysimplejason

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    I think you both got merit. You get rookies to build on but you need veterans who actually got it already to make your foundation better.

     
  16. D-rock

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    So just kick the can down the road instead of addressing it?

    Sounds like a genius strategy.

    LOL

    And fyi - no one is saying Banchero should not be pick if he's BPA at #3.

    But there are only so many minus defenders a team should invest in if the goal is a championship.

     
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  17. dmoneybangbang

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    LOL.... I literally said defense doesn't have to be addressed by the draft alone..... Keep up

    We have more than one offseason to address defense.... Come on now....

    So then you are assuming they will always be a minus defender players...... Whoops.

    We are years away from competing for championship.....
     
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    You are what you are until YOU prove differently.

    So yes, it would be sheer stupidity to believe that you can become elite defensively by adding minus defenders.

    This is not rocket science.

     
  20. dmoneybangbang

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    What's sheer stupidity is ASSuming this is close to some finish project.

    For all we know Green and Banchero will be the worst defensive players we have on our starting unit while Sengun is leading the bench. We have no idea the composition of this team.

    For all we know we trade Green and Banchero for a superstar.

    We are in talent acquisition mode, not fix the defense in an offseason mode. That should be painfully obvious.
     

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