Jabari vs Paolo.... is Robin potential vs Batman potential. We aren't drafting a top prospect due to what they did in college, but their NBA potential.
Also.... debating Jabari vs Chet vs Paolo is fruitless because we don't the #1 or #2 pick. We are going to take whoever is left. We are still closer to being a bottom 10 team than a top 10 team so we aren't done rebuilding the roster.
Well you were not the poster I asked to expand on their post. But your argument why Paolo will be used better with Rockets over Duke is just ... because?
Jabari had DPOY in Walker Kessler as a backstop who in many instances graded out as a better defender than Mark Williams at the college level. Then you talk about Mark Williams efficiency as a finisher at the rim. Can then you admit that scoring and efficiency at the rim matters and is a big component of high level basketball? Spacing at the NBA level is better. Period. For one, the 3 point line is further out. Paolo was used as a primary scoring option but still matched the eFG% of an elite spot up 3 point shooter. He must have been very good as a primary scoring option or Jabari is really that raw outside of spot up 3 point shooting on significantly less volume at that. I’d give it a few more years to determine what the Rockets have and don’t have.
I took an absurd comparison, a HOFer vs a role player, and added another absurd layer. Figures you'd be the only one who thought it worthy of further absurdity.
I think that argument is fruitless since the Rockets are still in rebuilding mode as I said. Just like I think the argument about fit between Sengun and Paolo is irrelevant at this stage in the Rockets rebuild.
Because it got into the heart of being a shot creator vs being a shooter and which skill you value more in the context of rebuilding.
First, I was addressing another poster who believed Paolo would be used better with Houston than he was used at Duke and under GOAT Coach K. Second, my post had zero bearing on your 2 > 3 argument. Third, just like Paolo will improve so will Jabari. I promise you that Jabari will become a more efficient rim finisher in NBA than he was in college. I will even put up tip jar bet that this happens his rook season.
I would guess his argument is that we are still in the rebuilding phase the only core player that we have so far is just Jalen Green, we honestly don't know what our roster will look like once we are finally out of the rebuilding phase. It seems that a lot of people on here want to finish the rebuild by 2023 since OKC will have control of our picks(that is if its not a top 4 pick) and I get that, but as it stands Paolo is a playmaking Big/forward and I like what he can bring to the table if he is able to play the 3.
It is absurd to compare the Curry brothers. I think we can all agree. The point I’m trying to make is that there must be a reason Seth’s TS% is higher than Steph’s. When you really start to consider the factors as to why this might be the case, and then understand that Paolo’s advanced shooting stats are significantly closer to Jabari than Steph to Seth, it becomes increasingly hard to make a case that any of it bodes well for Jabari.
Are you so certain that Paolo will be Rockets BEST shot creator in even TWO seasons? I am certain that Jabari will be Rockets BEST shooter in 2 seasons (or less) and 1 of best shooters in entire NBA.
So if we don't know then don't take such a stance. It's bullshet to make these fake ass projections then fall back on we don't know when an opposing argument is made.
I think due to his size, handles, and skills he has a very good chance of it. Not a very high bar. Possible. I'd be happy with Jabari, I just think Paolo has more potential. I believe shooting is easier to become competent at than playmaking. Paolo was a guard before he had a major growth spurt.
We have to take a stance... unless we are just not going to draft..... The point is that we are still very early in the rebuild as indicated by our record.
Steph vs Seth has absolutely no correlation to Jabari vs Paolo. None. It's like saying Giannis vs Thanasis equals Jabari vs Paolo. It's a pointless comparison and so beyond the pale.
Smith is my first choice, but the Rockets don't have the first pick. I would be thrilled with Paolo. In some ways he seems more NBA ready. Likely his size, big and rugged.
This rebuild is in a window of 3 drafts. We are halfway into the rebuild. This draft should be 75% into our rebuild. Because 2024-2026 drafts will benefit OKC more than Rockets. We cannot rely on much more draft help after 2023 because: 1. Very young inexperienced players will take up +95% of Rockets roster. 2. Contract extensions will have to be decided on these young players. 3. Rockets need to have foundational players, HC and system in place by this time.
I don’t doubt that he will. I also believe Paolo will improve the one stat that keeps his perceived efficiency below Jabari. All signs point to it and frankly he’s further along in his weaknesses than Jabari seems to be. Even if Jabari becomes average as a roll man, he’ll also need to develop a handle, reliably create separation and learn how to pass. Then he’ll need to learn to finish with either hand, make himself more useful in fast break situations and prove he can finish in contact. I’m willing to bet Paolo created more shots for himself from 3. His catch and shoot % is basically close to league average and he shot above 50% from the corners. Who’s fault is it that we have to evaluate Jabari more often than not on explicitly on catch and shoot? To take efficient shots a step further, corner 3’s are more efficient than 3’s at the top of the key. Why then does Jabari make a significant portion of his 3’s from the top of the key? Banchero shot better from the right corner and was comfortably over 50% on corner 3s. Since it appears to make people uncomfortable to look at the importance of volume in making a case for Banchero. Wouldn’t it be simplistic and disingenuous of me to say that Banchero is the more efficient 3 point shooter? After all he was more efficient from corner 3 than Jabari and that is a more efficient shot than top of the key. Of course volume doesn’t matter or at least that’s the argument that is always avoided at all cost. In fact it’s almost as if you punished for scoring a better percentage relative to a higher volume.
The rebuild is most likely going to extend past the 2023 season. Our roster is very fluid at this juncture. My point was that we shouldn't be worrying too much of how a prospect fits with this current Rocket iteration at this stage in the game.
