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2022/2023 mock Trade/Draft/Free agency thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by sydmill, May 31, 2022.

  1. TheBeastSystem

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    Or a Wembanyama fail video.
     
  2. KingSamJack

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    Pretty sure Victor had four injuries this year could be why he was not playing as much.
     
  3. ApacheWarrior

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    He was in 4 Playoff Gms.....I'm sure the sun was in his eyes when he shot 33% in those 4 games.

    But keep doubling and tripling up on your stance. Not looking like just a Fanboy
     
  4. Landry's Tooth

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    By star I'm guessing you me Andrew Wiggins? We picked a bad year for cap space...
     
  5. theDude

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    HOU out: Wood + Gordon
    CHA out: Gordon Hayward + #13

    Charlotte gets win-now pieces with a year to evaluate how those pieces fit. They could sign Wood long term and pick up Gordon’s option if it works. If not, they get cap space a year early.

    Houston uses #13 to draft Tari Eason, who woul play behind Hayward for as long as Houston wants to keep Hayward. They may be able to trade him later if he stays healthy and Eason and KMJ show progression.

    HOU out: 2022 #17
    TOR out: 2022 #33 + 2024 FRP

    Toronto gets a FRP this year to try to grab a player to bolster their roster. Rockets use #33 to draft Koloko and bring a defensive center to the roster.

    HOU out: 2023 FRP + 2023 FRP (MIL) + 2024 FRP (TOR) + KPJ
    HOU in: Donovan Mitchell

    POR out: Eric Bledsoe + #7
    POR in: Bojan Bogdanovic

    UTA out: Donovan Mitchell + Bojan Bogdanovic
    UTA in: KPJ, Bledsoe, #7 + 2023 FRP + 2023 FRP (MIL) + 2024 FRP (TOR)

    Houston gets Donovan Mitchell to bring some back court stability. Portland gets an easy roster upgrade at a position of need without affecting their cap long term.

    Utah bringing in Ainge likely means a rebuild is coming (and Snyder apparently wanted no part of it). Utah gets their rebuild off to a quick start by bringing in 4 FRP without having to bring in long term bad contracts. They can get another haul for Gobert, and have an OKC-style cache of picks and cap space to facilitate other trades that bring in picks.

    Mitchell/Nix
    Green/Christopher
    Hayward/Eason
    Paolo/Garuba
    Sengun/Koloko

    Tate, KMJ, Mathews, Nwaba, Queen round out the roster.
     
  6. D-rock

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    That was on Silas.

    And Theis was inefficient in almost every lineup, even lineups without Wood.

     
  7. Corrosion

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    There's absolutely nothing empty about shooting 38% & 39% from 3 in the past two seasons.

    We can complain about his being selfish, slipping picks, setting bad picks and lack of defensive give a crap ..... but the shooting stats are not hollow.

    There's also nothing empty about his rebounding numbers.
     
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    If you could get Paulo and his Running Mate Williams at C. I think this draft would be a A++

    I would look into moving Woods and Gordon and see if I can get another pick of a solid player for SF or PG in the Draft or via trade.... Ivey wouldn't be a bad target
     
  9. Verbal Christ

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    You really not impressed by Wembanyama? Is your boy Patrick Baldwin Jr a better prospect?

    Fanboys - LOL.
     
  10. ApacheWarrior

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    I know 30 teams gauging out their eyes for Wembanyama 3.5 pts and 1.8 rebs
    in 13 minutes a game for 4 playoff games. Nobody can overcome those
    Nick Collision numbers.

    I'm not saying he won't become good.....I'm just being told by some clown
    that he is killing grown men in his international league.

    Stay in your lane.....fanboy-LoL

    If that's killing it.....what can expect in an NBA game? A whopping 1.5 pts and 1 reb?
     
  11. The geth & the reaper

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    How realistic is this scenario?

    #4 kings trade down to #7 Portland

    #7 Portland trade down to #13 Hornets

    #13 trade down to #17 Houston

    Houston ends up with the 4th pick with everybody just trading down with players and some picks going their way

    Kings 7th, players and picks
    Portland 13th, players and a pick
    Hornets 17th, a player and a pick
     
  12. peleincubus

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    Easy peasy lemon squeeezy
     
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    Wall for Steph confirmed
     
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    My 2022 mock draft is incomplete since I only have an interest in the Houston Rockets.
    1 Jabari, 2 Chet, 3. Paolo 4.Keegan 5. Ivey
    6. Dyson 7. Duren 8. Mathurin 9. Davis 10. Sochan 11. Sharpe 12. AJ Griffin 13. M.Willams 14. Eason 15. Agbaji 16. Branham
    17. TyTy
    I think that's what Stone will do. Jalen Williams and Marjon Beauchamp can also be selected at 17, instead of TyTy by Stone in my opinion.
     
  17. Verbal Christ

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    Is there a difference when you want to use a 4 game sample size to discredit Wemby and on the flipside argue against writing off Baldwin Jr based on his terrible combine? Seems like just a little bias is showing, but somehow I already think you know that. His numbers in the Euro leagues dont pop at you thats a true statement. His skill package is on full display for those who are actually paying attention though. I'll look forward to talking about Wemby come next draft with you and gage your interest then! :D
     
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  18. ApacheWarrior

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    KingSamJack said Wembanyama was injured like 4 times this season which
    provokes injury prone images for a skinny player to me but oh well.

    People here were riding off Ivey, Jabari Smith, Chet because of tournament
    failure.....so isn't it the same when I judge a player on the same in
    International playoffs? Perhaps I'm just bringing attention on to those
    critics?

    What I'm reading is Patrick Baldwin played only 8 games his
    senior season of highschool because of injury to an ankle and was
    hampered by both ankles this season.

    So each team needs to weigh that option to whether Baldwin is
    injury prone just like they need to see if Wembanyama is as well.

    This is a case where Wembanyama gets a pass because he faced triple, quadruple
    coverage defensively, injury or injuries, poor shooting stats, poor point output,
    and should have dominated lesser competition.....but Baldwin does not
    get a pass.

    Yes I'm calling out people for not being consistent. I'm reading Baldwin
    will probably transfer to a big name college next season (which he should have
    done this past season).....possibly like a school like North Carolina and take
    the spot of Brady Manik and show how better teammates can open up everything
    in his game. Or injuries will show it's face again, who knows? Roko Prkacin
    probably wishes he came out last season.

    This has gone from an inside joke with @D-rock about a player going
    against, "Grown #$$ men" (giving D a chance to comment on Green.
    vs Mobley G-league vs college stuff to vent)

    To KingSamJack not understanding that.....and coming at me all serious.

    To now you chirping in from the cheap seats.

    Not all things are equal in these same experiments. Competition,
    teammates, coaches, injuries, etc. I've said before Banchero
    had two 40% shooters in the starting lineup in AJ Griffin and Wendell
    Moore and Mark Williams covering his back.....give Baldwin the same
    parts equal and see how good he is!!!!!! If he can stay healthy?
    If he goes to a program like NC and performs well, people may say
    who saw that coming?.........i will say Apache saw that.

    Stats can tell a lot.....but they don't tell the whole story.
    Wembanyama: .473 (FG%)....26.0% (3P%)....5.1 TRB....0.8 Ast...1.8 Blks...9.4 pts
    P Baldwin:........ .418 (FG%)....26.6% (3P%)....5.8 TRB....1.5 Ast...0.8 Blks...12.1pts
     
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  19. Verbal Christ

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    Im not looking at the buddy buddy aspect of inside jokes. I see a guy overly critical of one of the best NBA prospects in who knows how long and it just made me raise my eyes a bit. The anecdotal stuff other people inject into the convo shouldnt distract from the apparent skill package especially for a personnel guy like yourself thats all that struck me interesting. Not trying to offend you in any way.
     
  20. ApacheWarrior

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    If you know me I'm critical about every player, young Patrick Baldwin doesn't escape
    that in my eyes. I treat him like everyone else and I will scrutinize him like
    everyone else.

    People will understand there is a method behind my madness. Thru research
    I dug up more about why Baldwin may have struggled. I merely was saying
    that Green, Porter, Ivey would provide constant attacking of the basket, above
    the rim cutting action and a guy like Baldwin would actually get open shots
    (stats showed he only had 7 open shots), and lanes to dribble drive. Of course
    we would need quick fast players around him defensively....but his
    defensive stats were actually good to decent (per national percentile)

    But I'm ok with him proving it in college. Let Wembanyama prove it as well.
    Because his stats sucked equally.
     
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