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Who do you want at 3?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, May 17, 2022.

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Who do you want at #3?

  1. P. Banchero

    334 vote(s)
    75.2%
  2. J. Ivey

    47 vote(s)
    10.6%
  3. S, Sharpe

    10 vote(s)
    2.3%
  4. Other (Say in post)

    23 vote(s)
    5.2%
  5. Trade for #1

    30 vote(s)
    6.8%
  1. zeeshan2

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    Huh? Not Sengun?
     
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    Paolo doesn’t have better post footwork or quickness than Alp.
    That’s just nonsense
     
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    Sengun already flashed some retention from his work with Dream. I remember watching his first few games after working out with him and he was already implementing some of the tutelage. I see the same for Paolo.

    You MUST have the footwork necessary to have an effective post game. Both of our guys would (assuming Paolo lands here). It would be unreal to have two bigs in the lineup who would be tutored by Dream and actually be able to learn and implement the lessons.

     
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  5. don grahamleone

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    I LOVE Sengun. His style is smoother than Hakeem's. Hakeem had a jerky nature to his direction changes that Paolo shows me. Sengun is going to be great, he'll probably even show us a few Hakeem moments, but I think Paolo can make it his go-to.
     
  6. D-rock

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    Who the heck was that tiny guard defending Paolo on the block?

    Scrappy.

     
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    You guys are going more than a bit overboard.

    Sengun smoother than Dream?

    Banchero moves like Dream?

    C'mon guys.
     
  8. don grahamleone

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    Dream switched from one set of moves to the next like the second hand on an analog watch. I don't think that's completely hyperbole. If he got himself open and made an unimpeded move to the basket he was fluid as ****. When he switched directions it was jerky as can be, hence it was nearly impossible to defend. Pure smooth play leads to smooth sailing defense. Sengun can switch quickly, but his switches are smooth rather than jerky twitchy switches.

    No one is fooled by a smooth delivery.

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    The twitch is when he switches directions. It's perfect, it's effective, it's repeatable, but in no way was the sudden change in direction smooth. In one twitch the move is over. Ewing was guarding the smooth side, the jerk of the ball back the other direction is everything.

    The audience sees smooth, but the defender sees the twitch and he's gone. Paolo has the 19 year old version. Doesn't mean he'll take his game that direction, he just has the ability. Dream wasn't the true Dream his rookie year, but he showed ability to do things others can't... including that twitch.

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  9. D-rock

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    It's Bill Simmons so take with grain of salt.

     
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    Tyson Walker I think.

    On that note have you noticed how many times teams can just switch guards onto Chet and he wont take physical advantage of the mismatch? Tends to do what Jabari does and would rather elevate and take an awkward semi contested shot than impose their will on smaller players and get to the rim. One of the things I like about Paolo he will punish the mismatch.
     
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    Same thing happens to Kevin Durant, clearly it's ruined his career.
     
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    Do you really see any KD in either Jabari or Chet?? Be serious for a moment. You'd have to take both of their games and mash them into one player to have a chance at being the player KD was IN COLLEGE let alone the HOF guy he is now. Expecting that level of volume production from Chet is wishful thinking on a whole other level. Jabari being able to move to the rim like KD is probably impossible at this point, but thats what is fun about projecting and hoping for best cases and "ceilings".

    In the realm of "lets compare a rookie to a hall of famer" Its safer to say that Banchero can develop the footwork necessary to mimic some of Dreams moves since you can actually see that in his game today and dont need to project X amount of years in the future to wait for the development that may never come.
     
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    In some ways, I'll explain.

    Chet has the same physique KD came into the league with....it's why KD has always been a bit weak and soft....and why any halfway physical guard could push him around.

    When that would happen, KD would fall back on his stellar shooting, so it didn't matter.

    Will Chet be able to do that...or able to add some muscle to learn to push around guards? That's to be seen, but it's not like he's the first guy to come into the league skinny as a rail barely able to lift the bench press bar.

    Banchero has less of an excuse because he's definitely strong enough to impose his will on smaller players, he just loves mid-range trash, so he's happy to settle for it. That could be a flaw that is more difficult to correct, but maybe he can be convinced to lean on his passing in those situations....or to just play the bully ball he's capable of doing. Again, no rookie is a finished product.

    The point wasn't to suggest that either would be the quality of KD, just pointing out that the flaw of settling for mid-range garbage or coming into the league skinny and weak aren't necessarily fatal flaws for a rookie.
     
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    Chet has nowhere near the dribble drive ability that KD had out of college. That skill alone puts the defender on his heels to begin with in order to create some space for those midrange shots KD loves so much. If anything I can see that in Bancheros game more than either of Chet or Jabari.

    Im concerned about Chets frame, but its not my main concern. I wonder how much of a focal point he will ever be on offense and if taking a defensive specialist is a good move with a top 3 pick on a rebuilding team. Its banking on reaching his ceiling and Chet being given credit to get there, but somehow Banchero will fall short even when he has the most NBA ready game.

    One mans trash is another mans treasure. I may be on a foolish midrange crusade lately, but I still find value in the shot if you have a player that can excel there.
     
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    Walker was certainly not being punished in those highlights, if anything he was doing the punishing.

    Even Paolo doesn't always take advantage of mismatches when a defender is physically jostling him low.

    But I agree, it happens too often for all 3 guys.

     
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  18. Verbal Christ

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    You asked who was being feisty with Paolo ripping ball away I assume at the 48 second mark. I dont think it was Christie. Paolo goes bully mode way more often than the other two guys thats for sure.
     
  19. D-rock

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    He does and he should.

    Should not settle for mid range when he has that advantage.

    Paolo is also looking much leaner in latest workout vids, he should be able to play 3/4 without question.
     
  20. saleem

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    There can be a slip between the lip and the cup. Jabari may have the edge though.
     
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