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Astros 2022 Season General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2022.

  1. Alimoe84

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    I think he knows it. What could the Phillies give us? I hear they need a CF.
     
  2. Wulaw Horn

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    I know it’s a joke, but I wouldn’t do even Tucker and Yordan, let alone the other two. I’d probably do Tucker, Garcia and Brown both ways.
    If I was the GM of Anaheim and my owner told me I had to trade Trout to Houston and I had to offer houston something I think they’d take…
    Trout for Yordan, Meyers, Javier and Brown… who says no? Probably both teams with that extension Yordan just signed. I’d say no to that deal (I think) if I was the Astros but I’d have about a weeks worth of meetings. That’s just so much cheap control and Trout makes a lot of money. for the angels that’s 21 years of team control much of it cheap, for two guys who could be aces, a decent CF and one of the top 10 hitters in the league, plus tons of salary headed out the door with not a lot headed back in. You could sign Judge this off-season with the Trout money you saved, maybe.
     
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  3. Wulaw Horn

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    This is pretty obvious to me how the Of should play out…
    Tucker in RF
    Meyers every day CF
    Chaz/Brantley strict platoon in LF/pinch hitting
    Siri plays defense/baseruns for Brantley any game we lead or are tied and Brantley is on base in the 7th or later.
    That’s perfect combination of massively strengthening the bench and starting lineup when we face LHP and you get Siri on the bases/in the OF whenever Brantley gets on late while making the OF defense freakishly good when you have a lead late in the game.
    duhon can **** right off if we need his roster spot.
     
  4. BlindHog

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    If Meyers can retake his place in center field having Siri as a 4th outfielder will be like having Marisnick in his prime back. As much as I would like to hang on to him Chas should have some pretty substantial trade value.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    • You cannot have only 1 backup IF (Diaz & Dubon are not going anywhere)
    • ...especially when your designated DH can only play the OF
    • Brantley/Tucker/Yordan/Chas/Siri/Meyers is 1 too many OF
    • *We have no idea when Meyers will be ready*
    • One of Chas/Siri/Meyers will be in AAA for use as needed
     
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  6. STR8Thugg

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    I know Trout is amazing but I absolutely wouldn't trade Tucker or Yordan for him, much less both, plus Garcia and Brown. No way.
     
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  7. sealclubber1016

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    Meyers has the highest ceiling of the 3, he's basically the best parts of Siri and Chaz, with higher offensive potential.

    But we're a long way from having to make that call. Assuming Meyers looks good in his rehab, he should IMO be the unquestioned everyday CF unless he really struggles. This was not a minor injury,so this may not be a short assignment, he may not play for us at all.

    I would lean towards Siris glove over Chaz, but they can't both stay, the roster math simply doesn't work.
     
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  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Another monkeywrench I just thought about: can Siri be sent down without clearing waivers?
     
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  9. Wulaw Horn

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    I’m sure. That could be the plan in the post season- which is all that really matters.
     
  10. Wulaw Horn

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    Yes. He has at least one option left I am like 90% sure.
     
  11. Snake Diggit

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    Yes, all 3 still have options remaining.
     
  12. Snake Diggit

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    I think at this point unless Yuli is hiding an injury he is probably toast. It just looks like he’s having trouble catching up to some fastballs he used to get to and the contact he is making is weak. Plate discipline appears to be all the same. I’m not necessarily in favor of giving up on him this season because he has been so important to the franchise and is so good in the clubhouse. But I don’t think they should make much of an effort to bring him back. I wouldn’t be opposed to a Jones/Matijevic platoon to start next season.

    I think both Yuli and Bregman should be moved down in the lineup.
     
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  13. Snake Diggit

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    Starting to get pretty jazzed about Bryan Abreu. He’s been extremely effective. FB sitting 98. 33% k rate against 9% bb rate. I’d like to see him start getting some high leverage tests now that the Astros have built up a big division lead. He has the stuff to be an elite closer with just minor additional improvement.

    Montero and Neris are throwing like elite closers so to add Abreu to that list would make for a pretty insane bullpen.
     
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    Yep.

    Abreu's slider is back to his 2019 shape plus some movement and he's got enough control right now to be lethal. Montero and Neris have been great. Pressly and Stanek appear to be getting better and have had enough polish to prevent runs without best stuff.

    With the rotation stacked, Urquidy, Odorizzi, Taylor, and Maton got to be feeling some pressure. Trade deadline isn't too far away so Astros likely add someone. Even with the hiccup in his last start, I don't expect Brown to be kept down much longer. Dubin's ERA doesn't reflect it, but he's starting to throw more innings and the whiffs have returned. Paredes is back to not allowing every other batter hit a homer this year, though his walks are still high. I have a hard time seeing Paredes having much of a chance to crack this bullpen and a lot of teams would love to try have him.
     
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  15. juicystream

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    You could argue Brantley should be the odd man out, but I doubt we'd move him.
     
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    Probably not the right thread but idk where to post this.

    I’m a big proponent of OPS, but one thing that has bothered me for awhile, wouldn’t it make more sense to multiply these numbers together instead of summing them?

    I can’t find an explanation anywhere to why adding them together makes much sense. I have a fairly dense mathematics background, and while I still think OPS is one of the better offensive stats to grade overall production, to me it seems fundamentally flawed. Someone with more insight please help me out.
     
  17. STR8Thugg

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    He shouldn’t be the odd man out because we can trust him in crucial situations, down 2 strikes in the count. His approach is impeccable, and while he doesn’t hit for the power he used to, his knowledge of opposing pitchers and “clutchness” both offensively and defensively (which I get is kind of a crapshoot in baseball) is very valuable. He also isn’t producing at the moment the way his final numbers will likely shake out, so we should see an uptick.

    Unfortunately, I think Brantley’s numbers skyrocket after this season with the shift changes. But so will Tuck and Yordan’s.
     
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  18. Wulaw Horn

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    He hasn’t hit lefties for 4 years and his power isn’t coming back. All the things you say make him a valuable player but it should be in a platoon and pinch hitting role. He can still perform like an all star in that role.
     
  19. STR8Thugg

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    Sorry, but there’s no way you can convince me a combination of Chazzy Fizz and Siri should be playing every day but Brantley shouldn’t. Meyers looks promising but I don’t expect him to jump right back in and produce. That should be a wait and see approach.

    As for LHP, Brantley is hitting .241 against lefties with a .632 OPS and against lefty starters, he’s hitting .327 with an .858 OPS. Siri is a career .171 hitter with a .627 OPS against lefties. This year he’s hitting a putrid .071 and a .365 OPS against lefties.

    For the record, I love Siri’s speed and defense and I think he is extremely valuable even when he isn’t hitting much, but to me Chas is the odd man out. Benching Brantley makes no sense in any universe imo.
     
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  20. sealclubber1016

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    A guy getting on base 36% of the time compared to 29% of the time.

    You will be extremely hard pressed to convince me that they will add enough defensive value in LF to overcome that, particularly Chaz. Although I do think he should be platooned against lefties.
     

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