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Supervillains Gather in Davos

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, May 25, 2022.

  1. MojoMan

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    Former Democrat presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard weighs speaks the truth on this topic. She is exactly right:

     
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    Which attendee has expressed this dream? Seems hyperbolic.
     
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    Cobra Commander?
     
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    Here is the link to webpage the World Economic Forum website for "The Great Reset," which they have been aggressively, actively and very publicly promoting for several years now, going back to around the start of the covid hysteria. They have a whole section on this, including quite a few videos. See for yourself.

    This is not being done covertly, despite the fact that you appear to be ignorant about it. That you are unfamiliar with this just speaks to the inadequacy of your news sources.
     
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    What is the Great Reset - and how did it get hijacked by conspiracy theories? - BBC News

    The other founder of the initiative is Prof Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum (WEF), which organises an annual summit in a Swiss ski resort for some of the world's wealthiest and most powerful people.

    He explained the idea behind the Great Reset in an article accompanying the launch:

    "The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future."

    There's a Great Reset podcast and even a 280-page book. But the plan is light on specific detail.

    Prof Schwab does speak about a "wealth tax" and ending fossil fuel subsidies. But the scope is huge - covering technology, climate change, the future of work, international security and other themes - and it's difficult to see precisely what the Great Reset might mean in practice.

    This lack of clarity, combined with the plan being launched by an influential organisation, provided fertile ground for conspiracy theories to grow.​
     
  6. durvasa

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    OK, but the part I was asking about is where is someone talking about getting rid of ownership and tracking/monitoring everyone's steps. Can you point directly to that?
     
  7. Nook

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    So? People that are strongly motivated by financial gain shouldn't be highly trusted regardless.... but this isn't something explicit or even implicitly limited to this cadre of voices. Why should I have any faith is politicians such as DJT that are clearly motivated by money and power and ego? At the end of the day ALL of this is male ego flexing.......... and Bill Gates or Elon Musk isn't any bigger than the likes of DTJ or Graham or Pelosi.... so why single them out as if it is some grand conspiracy? The only thing that these people want to control MORE than the general population is EACH OTHER.
     
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    There was one idiot socialist minister from Scandinavia (Ida Auken) who said that. Doesn't mean there is some grand conspiracy of all attendees of the WEF supporting that nonsense. I think most people attending Davos own quite a bit and have no intention of changing that for the worse, either for them or for anyone else in the world.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...have-people-own-nothing-by-2030-idUSKBN2AP2T0
     
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  9. Nook

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    Tulsi Gabbard doesn't even know what she really believes half the time.
     
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    You will own nothing and be happy about it - by 2030. That is eight years from now. Here is a video that the WEF put out about this, summarizing some of the highlights of what "The Great Reset" will supposedly entail:



    This video is currently posted on the WEF website, at the bottom of the article linked next, below.


    Further, here is a webpage on the WEF website outlining these eight predictions in writing more detail, which includes that you will own nothing and the tracking.

    8 predictions for the world in 2030

    [By 2030] all products will have become services. “I don’t own anything. I don’t own a car. I don’t own a house. I don’t own any appliances or any clothes.” Shopping is a distant memory in the city of 2030, whose inhabitants have cracked clean energy and borrow what they need on demand. It sounds utopian, until she mentions that her every move is tracked and outside the city live swathes of discontents, the ultimate depiction of a society split in two.


    And here is an article that quotes Herr Schwab these and other points directly:

    In 2030, You’ll Own Nothing And Be Happy About It
    Incredible predictions from the World Economic Forum’s mastermind about life in 2030

    The headline to this story is from Klaus Schwab, the Founder and Executive Chairman of the World Economic Forum, the International Organization for Public-Private Cooperation. He is the mastermind behind the World Economic Forum that organizes the well-known Davos Summit.

     
  11. durvasa

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    Thanks. This part helps answer my question:


    The three-minute clip, which has 862 likes and 1,100 shares at the time of writing, is captioned “Let's talk about the World Economic Forum's stated goals for 2030” with the title: “How we can stop them from stealing everything from us” (here).

    It features a man who says: “Now let’s talk about their stated goal, ‘by 2030 you’ll own nothing and be happy’. So, the question is, how do they get us to that point? How can over 10 years they get us from having private property to owning nothing?”

    The WEF does not have a ‘stated goal’ to remove everyone’s private property by 2030. As addressed in previous Reuters fact checks, these claims likely originated from a WEF social media video from 2016 that stated eight predictions about the world in 2030, including: “You’ll own nothing. And you’ll be happy. What you want you’ll rent, and it’ll be delivered by drone.” (here)

    Danish politician Ida Auken, who wrote the prediction in question (here), said it was not a “utopia or dream of the future” but “a scenario showing where we could be heading - for better and for worse.”

    In a written update, she clarified that the piece aimed to “start a discussion about some of the pros and cons of the current technological development. When we are dealing with the future, it is not enough to work with reports. We should start discussions in many new ways. This is the intention with this piece.”​
     
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    The link to the article in question by the Denmark MP is broken. I found the article here:

    Welcome to 2030. I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy, and Life Has Never Been Better (futurism.com)
     
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    Never let a crisis go to waste....
     
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    The article describes an imagined future of one person and the advantages/disadvantages of it as she sees it.

    Author's note: Some people have read this blog as my utopia or dream of the future. It is not. It is a scenario showing where we could be heading - for better and for worse. I wrote this piece to start a discussion about some of the pros and cons of the current technological development. When we are dealing with the future, it is not enough to work with reports. We should start discussions in many new ways. This is the intention with this piece.


    Gabbard's portrayal of it is that such a future is one of the goals of the WEF as a whole which struck me as misleading and I stand by that. It isn't even the stated goal of the person who wrote the piece.
     
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    Follow the links I actually did include, and they will lead you to the WEF website, where these ideas are promoted. Unless you are just opposed to seeing it for yourself for some reason.
     
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    I'm not opposed, but I'm skeptical that at the end of this goose chase I will actually find something spoken or written that resembles what it is she is describing. Which is why I asked for direct links or quotes, to avoid potentially wasting my time.

    In any case, I'll take a closer look at the links you pasted later on when I have some more free time.
     
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    Your views have been observed, noted, and filed for future re-education efforts.
     
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    You are referring to an article by "her," which I did not link or quote, and then saying that this article does not sufficiently support the posts I have made.

    I did not link to that article.

    If I referred to an article that you did not post or directly refer to, and insisted that because that article (which you had not referenced) does not persuasively support the points you are making, that there is therefore probably no point in exploring this matter any further, would that make sense to you? Because that is what you are doing here.

    The posts I made are supported by the links in those posts. They are not intended by me to be supported by other articles that you have obtained elsewhere.
     
  20. durvasa

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    You posted a link "8 predictions for the world in 2030". The first of those deals with the specific claims Gabbard was making. But the link to the article describing the prediction is broken (verify by clicking the "All products will have become services" link). As I pointed out. Hence, I found the actual article and pasted it here. I read it (apparently you had not), and it doesn't say what Gabbard is claiming it says. Nor can one sensibly draw the conclusion that this prediction is a stated goal of the WEF organization as a whole.
     
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