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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, May 26, 2022.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    in states where these laws have been put into effect, that hasn't happened. If it did, you might find more support for universal background checks.
     
  2. ThatBoyNick

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    Right, this is the exact point additional gun laws would come into play in this story...
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    #1 I thought you were being sarcastic .

    #2 if he broke the law and grabbed a gun and stopped a crime what’s the penalty , would the law really have stopped him ? Or what he did just be illegal after the fact ?

    #3 This case in particular isn’t a good illustration of why the law would hurt ... he shouldn’t have had time to get there anyways , the other p*****s should have taken the shooter out

    #4 isn’t there already pretty high support for universal background checks ? I remember seeing 80+ from “the hill”.

    #5 in terms of practical gun laws , I’d rather see age limit increase and some special sort of permit or ban on guns not handgun or shotgun . For the record I don’t have a gun and idk if an AR-15 is actually an “assault rifle” . Seems close enough to me tho ... and I have played counter strike .
     
  5. ThatBoyNick

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    The ever so witty and creatively concerned Os.
     
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    for the most part, people don't understand what's involved with universal background checks. In fact, most people don't understand firearms and/or firearm laws
     
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    for the most part you’ve avoided all of my points
     
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    New York has legally required background checks for private transfers of firearms. The law is routinely ignored.

    Morale of the story: don't pass laws you have absolutely no way of enforcing.
     
  9. Os Trigonum

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    what points did you think were most important?
     
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    Why do you think New York routinely has amongst the lowest firearm deaths in the country?
     
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    it certainly isn't because of universal background checks
     
  12. LosPollosHermanos

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    This dude emanates BDE

    has more courage in one of those beard hairs than the entire cop dostrict
     
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    I don't know man, it's probably because of something
     
  14. snowconeman22

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    that your argument of it being against the law doesn’t mean that it couldn’t happen . The border patrol who drives 40 min to respond to a shooting near his home is worried about not filling out paperwork first ?

    that the example is a bad one entirely because he shouldn’t have had that much time to get there anyways

    I think it’s a pretty bad attempt man

    you disgrace Sam Dekker
     
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  15. Os Trigonum

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    the point remains, if there were a universal background check law then Border Patrol Stud Guy would have broken the law.
     
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    blue state with lots of gun-phobic residents?
     
  17. snowconeman22

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    maybe . But are you also sure there are no good-Samaritan laws / exceptions that would have covered him .

    what does breaking the law mean if no one was willing to charge him ?

    Seems like a weak point .

    he prolly also broke the law speeding to get there or drove through a red light . Maybe since he was border patrol those don’t apply . Maybe since he’s responding to an emergency the borrowing clause would have a provision for that

    I’m about 95 percent sure that you aren’t sure .

    also , not related (tangentially) but how come he had to borrow a gun in the first place ? Aren’t BP packing ?
     
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    Maybe

    Huge if true actually, we could figure out how to breed the momentum of that gun phobia and its powerful consequences.

    A man of your wit and creative concern could put in work
     
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    anyway, it's been fun. gonna bow out again.
     
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    i mean the cops didn’t have an AR, and the shooter did. If they had breached the door and he was waiting, I suspect he could have and would have mowed down at least the first several cops easily, if not more/all.

    again, my view is that they should have gone in.
     

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