No she isn't what she is proposing is a bit left of center, but LEFT LEFT is communism, and pure socialism and she is far far away from that. In fact she is only wanting to tax the rich back to levels in the 50s when we built the biggest middle class, but people don't actually review the details and look for talking points rather than truth. She is not far left, she is center left. DD
What extremist kooks run the Democratic Party? Let's compare to 25 years ago... the dems have moved... right on Healthcare (from universal healthcare to Obamacare) right on Guns (from assault weapon bans to background checks) right on Economics (no longer raising taxes on the middle class) about the same on Trade (mix of protectionists and free trade) left on Climate change (wasn't as much of an issue back then) left on LGBTQ rights What is this crazy leftward shift? Just because a few loud voices like AOC and Bernie say things doesn't mean the party has moved that way - Bernie has been there forever and they used to have guys like Dennis Kucinich in the House too. As of yet, those people keep losing every policy battle within the Democratic Party.
Dear centrists, Rather than endlessly b****ing that nobody represents your nebulous values, why don’t you make the effort to articulate those values and persuade the rest of us that those values are wise and just. Because if the OP’s sentiments are in line with most centrists, a centrist wants to be able to hate equally on both ammosexuals and non-cisgendered persons. I hope your values are a bit less superficial than that. Driving in the middle of the road doesn’t make you wise or pragmatic - it just makes you a terrible driver.
I want to point out how ugly this sentiment is. Do you really think that the left views childhood gender as a simple “choice” to be made by a 6 year old? Or is it possible - just possible - that the left simply empathizes with anyone of any age whose gender identity is not perfectly aligned with his/her/their biological makeup. And is it possible that the left wants to promote a society where such individuals are treated with respect and not forced (under significant psychological stress) to conceal their sense of self? And is it possible that the left wants to show support for the parents, who rather than letting their child “choose” their gender on a lark (as you imply), have likely spent significant financial rand emotional resources seeking a way to help their child? You’re a much better person (and poster) than this kind of flippancy indicates. Do better.
She's far left. Any further left is communism and would require blood shed. She's as far left as Ted is far right.
Couldn't the same be said of the farther left? They also constantly b**** about that nobody represents their values or votes for their issues. Shouldn't they be doing a better job convincing everyone else? They are the ones that seem to not be well represented in Congress - either because most people don't agree with them or because they are bad at articulating why people should. That was the case for the alt-right too until Trump came along and was able to articulate their values in a powerful way. Then much of the mainstream right went along with it.
The centrists are the voters who split ticketed Biden in order to stop his "liberal agenda" from passing unimpeded in Congress. Took a miracle in Georgia to even get an ultraslim majority. Because getting **** done is like pulling teeth? And no one genuinely likes supporting until the very last minute?
No I don’t think that’s accurate at all - the left (again, there is no far left in this country) is quite articulate on what they want. And while we definitely b**** about how the center seems to both reinforce (via voting) fear-based GOP hyperbole and damn the left for anything that has the slightest whiff of dramatization, we don’t ever claim to be “unrepresented.” Outnumbered maybe, but not unrepresented. And yes, the left has to figure out how to message without being overly wonky or worse tone-deaf (I.e using slogans like “Defund the Police” which was the PR equivalent of dunking on your own basket). There’s no getting around that all degrees of the left has been ****ing horrible at messaging for my entire lifetime. And that has to change.
There is some truth with the general premise but ... War? This is straight up a Right Wing talking point. Ds say "pay their fair share" and Rs hear "its war".
Those are definitely just the loud minorities. Most polls show that most Americans aren't super in favor of either of those positions.
About 6 years ago, I was as true a centrist as you will ever find. Voted democrat twice, and republican twice. Donald Trump drew a f**king hard line in the sand, nobody is capable of being a centrist in this country right now. You agree with the actions of the republican party, or you don't. I, to put it extremely mildly, do not. So I tacitly support any democrat, however bland I may find them. I really, really didn't want to vote for Hillary or Biden. All of the PC woke nonsense is annoying, nothing more, it's not actually impacting anything.
When you pretty much blame rich people for all the problems in the world, you are at war with them. I say this as a person who thinks all capital gains should be taxed like regular income.
"Centrists / Moderates" are often tarred with having no values but just wanting to be middle of the road. I think that is a profound misunderstanding of where many centrists view their role to be. I'm not going to speak for all centrists or moderates but I think many of these values are shared by those who consider themselves centrists even if they don't articulate it. The philosophical under pinnings of political centrism are essentially based in the ideas of Locke and also the philosophical Pragmatism and Utilitarianism. Under that view is the idea that while the individual does exist and have inherent rights the state exist because without a structure of laws Liberty actually doesn't exist because under anarchy you actually don't have rights but just the exercise of power. While you are theoretically born in "perfect freedom" so are others. In my "perfect freedom" I could rob you if I wanted to with the only consequence being what retribution you could bring to me. Because of this humans voluntarily have accepted and created a state and as such have submitted to the laws of the state. Unlike other philosophies though the state is not seen as an infalliable expression of the collective will of society. Political actions within the structure of laws and the state should be viewed through their utilitiy rather than ideologically. So to that end while we might have higher ideological goals those have to be viewed as aspirational with an understanding of the ultimate utility. For example something that has been brought up recently. John Stuart Mill has frequently been mentioned as by those who claim to be "free speech absolutists". While Mill did say that free speech is an ideal he wasn't an absolutist in his thought. In his work "On Liberty" he lays out an example of where free speech should be restricted in where it leads to the likelihood of violence. Applying that to our current debates regarding social media then even if you accept that private social media should be forums for free speech they not only have the ability to limit speech but should under the principle of Utility when such speech likely leads to violence. While many who claim to be "Centrists" might not think this deeply about why they take certain positions if you apply these principles to many issues you will take a "Centrist" position that considers not just the ideal of a position but also the practical utility of such a position.
