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Uvalde cops

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  1. Rocket River

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    WOW! So there was no Resource office? D*mn

    Why lie about something like that??
    If you didn't know . .. just leave that out and don't include it in the conference

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  2. ArtV

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    If you sign up for the job then you have to take the good with the bad. Like Roxran - We might be old and out of shape but there is no way I'm standing by for 40 minutes looking at a shooter in an elementary school. I know you think this is just tough guy typing but I know it's not. If you have 3-4 guys, it's hard to get us all (especially if we're trained which we should be) before you're going down. Someone shooting in my direction isn't going to stop me. Might make me take cover for a bit but I'm coming in.

    And 40 minutes? Do you really comprehend how long that is to just wait? That's insane.

    I'm all for the police. I'm all for if I told you to freeze and if you reach down suddenly, you're getting shot because I understand that you want to go home at the end of the day. Some of these police sign up because they want to bully. But your #1 job is to protect people. These are kids 8, 9, 10 year old kids. Every single law enforcement officer needs to reflect if they need to stay in this line of work or not. And if they do, the need to make it their mantra to help people even at the cost of their own life. If you have kids and you don't want to pay the price, I understand. But you need to find another line of work then because instead of saving lives, you're costing lives. If I was the mayor, I'd completely clean house - starting with swat and the police chief.
     
  3. Reeko

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    The 18-year-old gunman who killed 21 people at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, was not confronted by police before he entered the school, a Texas law enforcement official said Thursday, contradicting earlier comments from authorities and raising further questions about the police response to the massacre.

    "He walked in unobstructed initially," Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) Regional Director Victor Escalon said. "So from the grandmother's house, to the (ditch), to the school, into the school, he was not confronted by anybody."

    A DPS representative on Wednesday said a school resource officer had "engaged" with the suspect before he went in the school.

    In his comments, Escalon said that the suspect, Salvador Ramos, shot his grandmother and then wrecked his truck in a ditch outside the school at 11:28 a.m. He exited the truck with a rifle and shot at two people across the street, Escalon said. He then approached the school and shot at the building multiple times and walked in through an apparently unlocked door at 11:40 a.m., according to Escalon.

    There was no school resource officer on site or available at the time, he said. Inside, the suspect walked into a classroom and fired more than 25 times, Escalon said. The majority of the gunfire was in the beginning of the attack, he said.


    the cops will lie about anything to try and make themselves look good
     
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  4. Roc Paint

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    **** P***y Policia
     
  5. B-Bob

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    Should give 18 yr olds a voter registration form but you're probably right.
     
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  6. Reeko

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    unarmed parents rushed into the school to try and save their kids, but armed cops couldn’t because “this isn’t COD”

    embarrassing
     
  7. Reeko

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    since the cops were too cowardly and incompetent to do anything but stand around outside for an hour while kids are getting killed, the least they could’ve done is hand their weapons over to the parents so that they can go handle business and save their kids because the police clearly were not gonna go in and do that
     
  8. peleincubus

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    Lol you pretentious ignorant di*khead
     
  9. tmacfor35

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    I would reserve that for the clowns who feel they have a right to judge someone deciding if they want to potentially die or not without all the information.
     
  10. peleincubus

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    Most cops are not all that smart???


    I have known enough cops in my life and I promise at least 60-80% are just as smart as you DD. Unless you think of yourself and dumb there are plent of police that are of at least average intelligence. Yeah there are some dumb ones but plent of average intelligence or a above average.
     
  11. peleincubus

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    Any person out there should know with what happened that the guy should not have sat in there for an hour.

    THESE ARE SMALL CHILDREN. if they are adults it was still against protocol. For gods sake though it again is small children. This is what the job is. You save defenseless children.

    Someone ****ed up and if this happened a 1000 times over the vast majority of the time a group of police sherif game wardens etc would not have waited a damn hour.
     
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  12. DaDakota

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    Let's look a little deeper at how educated our police are......

    Austin Police Department requirements
    • Must possess a High School Diploma or GED.
    Houston Police Department
    1. At least 48 semester hours of credit, in any area of study, from an accredited college or university with at least a 2.0 grade point average; OR
    2. A minimum of 18 months active duty in the United States Armed Forces and received an Honorable Discharge; OR
    3. At least three years of full-time employment as a peace officer licensed by Texas Commission on Law Enforcement (TCOLE) or an equivalent licensing entity in another state.
    Uvalde Police Department
    • High School diploma or GED

    I mean we have a bunch of JETHRO CLAMPET level of educated officers running around, let's make it require a college degree just like teachers need.....we can't keep hiring the bottom of the barrel (on average) and expect exemplary work.

    I never said I was smarter (Not about me anyway)...........but yeah, my take stands, most cops are not all that educated, they have HS diplomas at best (Most) and that is basically not all that great these days......

    There are some exceptions - but think about it these people are living off the nipple of society, they live off of our taxes - they don't go out and work in the private sector where achievement is rewarded, and they don't have a high level of education or exposure to general society - causing a massive breakdown in their ability to critically think.

    So yeah, most are not all that smart and are certainly uneducated.

    DD
     
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  13. tmacfor35

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    What does good grades have to do with making life or death decisions in the heat of the moment?I’d rather just hire Military personnel that have had to deal with those emotions.
     
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    It’s hard to believe in hindsight. In the moment, you need a really brave individual who is willing to accept his death is probable walking through the door. Where was swat? Where was their tactical equipment, it’s all really bizarre. AR15 .223 rounds will f up any body armor under level 4 aka it’s not there. My brother who is a trooper in Pecos Texas were given level 4 armor for these type of situations. I mention about needing information to fully understand. Did they have the proper gear to take on a shooter? Maybe? It’s all weird to me. Uvalde has a swat team. Why weren’t they designated to the school. If so, what took so long? There’s so many questions that should get uncovered in the next week or two.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Good grades? See that is the narrowmindedness that litters policing.

    It is about being exposed to higher education, different viewpoints, and learning to critically think under pressure.

    The military is fine, but even there it is uneven in hiring, lots of people join the military because they can't get into college and it is a way out of a difficult situation - in the military they may learn how to operate a weapon or learn a trade, and learn to take orders, but that doesn't mean that they know how to critically think.

    Most people in the military, especially the lower ranks are exactly the same problem......maybe they will take advantage of the GI Bill and get that education that is needed by so many in this country.

    Education is key. People that have don't need to ask why it is needed.

    And it would be "What do good grades have....."

    DD
     
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    Get rid of guns
     
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  18. DaDakota

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    Exactly.

    DD
     
  19. thegary

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    Quit looking for dumb answers
     
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