They do every day by putting on the uniform. I think you may be to ignorant to understand what a country without police would look like. You are just very ignorant, or lack the mental capability to think through a what if scenario.
Again I'm not saying they didn't act badly but there is still so much we don't know. I understand in the emotion of the situation we want to cast blame and LEO are always a target to blame. Regarding holding parents back. Yes it is awful but it is very likely that they are doing so to keep them from getting hurt themselves. I had been a disaster volunteer and been on site of fires. You do often have people wanting to rush back into a burning house to try to save people, pets or posessions. I've seen first hand firefighters and LEO hold people back because if they allow those people in they become a liability. Consider now you have an active shooter where there is a firefight. How well will it work to allow frantic parents to rush into the cross fire?
White House reserving judgment on police response to Texas school shooting https://thehill.com/news/administra...-on-police-response-to-texas-school-shooting/
I don’t even understand your question. ANY size town should benefit from having a SWAT team for situations just like this. This is what SWAT teams are for. Horrible events like this don’t just happen in large cities. Every police force needs to be prepared for something like this. Uvalde has a SWAT team. What were they doing?
They had the shooter pinned in a single room. Not farfetched to think there was an opportunity to evacuate kids in other rooms. Lets think about this. In that situation, you are going to protect your kid first and foremost as a parent. That is called human instincts. People are asking for cops to barge down a door and accept death. Easier said on Clutchfans then done in real life. Police officers are trained to fight behind cover. Barging in a door with a rifle pointed at the entrance is not part of that training and those rounds will penetrate multiple bodies per bullet if lined up if they didn't have a higher level armor. You also risk the shooter using children as perspective shields in which you would need a slower tactical scenario and can't go in their guns blazing. Big question is why these ballistic shields via Swat weren't delivered to the scene sooner? Uvalde isn't a big town. It shouldn't have taken more than 10 minutes from the police station to that location unless they didn't have it. Doesn't surprise me that a border patrol agent was the first man through the door. Special agents are loaded up to the gills as they are fed funded. Just a takeaway from a family member in Pecos Texas in law enforcement and another in McCallen via border patrol. Simply busting a door down is not how it works in real life. Maybe behind the keyboard.
They may have been tied up. Its really bizarre though. Uvalde isn't big. Nothing makes much sense to me other then that they potentially didn't have the ballistics capable of walking through a door helping prevent loss of life. Maybe they were waiting for it, who really knows? I am surprised they haven't released the police body cams. I am sure its coming though, and we can probably learn something from it.
poor cops did the right thing waiting out there for an hour… The "stark and important" lessons learned from the Columbine response, which was widely criticized, may have helped save lives Wednesday at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Gagliano said. Before the Colorado shooting, responding officers would set up a secure perimeter around the crime scene before even thinking about moving on the suspect. In Parkland, authorities say Nikolas Cruz, 19, fatally shot 17 people at his former school before blending in with the students and staff rushing out of the school building. He was arrested in a neighboring community later in the day. "Nowadays, what we do is go to the sound of the guns," Gagliano said. "You get one, two, three, four people together. We're trained. We use particular formations." Gagliano called it a "heterogeneous group" of first responders that could include local, state and federal agencies. "You're going to the sound of the guns," he said. "The No. 1 goal is to interdict the shooter or shooters. In the old days, you took land. You went in. You clear the room. Then you slowly and methodically move to clear the next room. In this instance ... get to the shooter as quickly as possible and that's what they clearly did here." The tactic, known in law enforcement circles as rapid deployment involving the first officer at the scene, began in earnest after the Columbine shooting. More than half of mass shooting incidents are still in progress when officers arrive on the scene, with 75% requiring law enforcement to confront the shooter before the threat ends, Katherine Schweit, a former senior FBI official, wrote in a 2013 FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin article. A study of 35 active shooter incidents during 2012 found that 37% ended in less than five minutes and 63% in less than 15 minutes, according to Schweit. The average active shooter incident lasts 12 minutes.
And yet, all we know is the shooter pinned himself in a room where these "formations" have no meaning when you are walking through a 30 inch door space. You keep posting those "formations" though. Good job.
We need to know what happened between the time the cunt locked himself in a room and when LEO breached the door before making conclusions. A lot of that timeline is still murky. Like I said before, if the micropenis was firing gunshots, that's a reason for LEO to rush in. Otherwise, securing the scene isn't a bad move. Public trust in LEO is pretty low. The optics of them physically handling parents is bad. The initial reports of three armed guards being ineffective makes them look incompetent. The dodgy answers makes them look like they're hiding the truth and in full CYA mode. Uvalde PD having to rely on outside agencies to take over adds more to their incompetence. It's hard to believe anything they say at this point until more things get verified.
stop all these excuses "One of the big issues in Columbine was law enforcement wasn't trained to go after the shooter," said Garrett, the former FBI agent. Instead of immediately confronting the threat and racing into the building, police secured the scene and waited for SWAT teams to arrive, which allowed the gunmen to continue to fire inside. Forty-eight minutes ticked by at Columbine before SWAT entered the building, DeAngelis said, as the officers first had to get their gear at their precincts -- leaving DeAngelis and the police at the scene feeling helpless. In the two decades since Columbine, first responder protocol has drastically improved. Now, most police departments have rapid response officers who carry heavier assault weapons and are trained to enter immediately and "follow the firepower," said Garrett. "If they hear shots, they're going to keep moving closer and closer to it until they confront the shooter."
Did the fire fighters hold them back or pepper spray, arrest and tase them? Also, were the fire fighters all standing around outside the house with their fire suits on while the owners of the house looked on helplessly as their children were inside dying, or did they go inside to try to save them? I’m also not saying you should allow parents inside the building. I’m saying these cops should be better at doing their job and be actively trying to disarm the shooter in as little time as possible so that the parents know something positive is actually being done to help the situation, which seems to not be the case here. And they should also be better at handling/understanding the parents of the children inside without having to resort to force to calm them down or stop them from going inside. I’m guessing that if the parents had believed that the cops on the scene were actually doing something to try to resolve the situation, they would have been much more understanding with waiting outside. But since all they apparently saw were cops standing around outside the building for 40+ minutes, the parents clearly didn’t think enough was being done. And I believe they were correct. The cops appear to have handled this situation poorly. You also ignored the part where a cop got a girl killed by having her yell out. That points to incompetence in a situation like this, which gives people the right to assume that these police officers did a terrible job in this situation and were either not well trained or crapped the bed in the moment.
still trying to excuse away the cops chilling outside for a whole hour I see…the lame ass excuses keep coming
But you don't know what the situation was inside the room. How can you say people are making excuses? You sound like a child.
Almost every other cop interviewed including PDs have said this was inappropriate. Let ne guess it became ok only when border patrol came? You have a personal vetted interest in this take and you know it
Dude he walked in unobstructed with the sole goal of killing 6 year olds and was a threat to do so for a whole hr your imaginary scenarios can apply to civilians but if you can’t expect that much of cops and their martyr complex than there is no point of thanking or having them
