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Who do you want at 3?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, May 17, 2022.

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Who do you want at #3?

  1. P. Banchero

    334 vote(s)
    75.2%
  2. J. Ivey

    47 vote(s)
    10.6%
  3. S, Sharpe

    10 vote(s)
    2.3%
  4. Other (Say in post)

    23 vote(s)
    5.2%
  5. Trade for #1

    30 vote(s)
    6.8%
  1. zeeshan2

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33969912/winners-losers-2022-nba-draft-combine
     
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    I haven't dug Jabari as much as before and now even less:

     
  3. sealclubber1016

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    I sure hope Orlando and OKC buy this comparison.
     
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    Media loves Banchero more than GMs do.

     
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    Shane Battier.

    DD
     
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    I hope they don't. Saying Jabari as a Freshman in the SEC is similar, but better to what Covington did over 4 years in the OVC is high praise especially considering that Jabari shoot more threes and free throws. The 3 point argument from a biased source basically suggests Jabari will hit just under 40% while taking a lot of threes isn't a con in my book. If Jabari's shot mix changes like Covington's, you got a guy making 38% of threes on 11 attempts a game while only shooing 4-5 2PAs despite Jabari likely being better than Covington was when he entered the league and likely getting a lot better.

    Great defender that basically is what Curry was behind the 3 point line this past season.
     
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    What a quick turn. There was news Orlando is taking Chet yesterday.
     
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    Greatest correlation from NCAA to NBA.

    SURPRISE!!!

    • Blocks have the strongest one-for-one correlation between NCAA and NBA outcomes, at a high 65%.

     
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    Advanced stats are more accurate translation than box score stats.

    Imagine that. :D

    And OMG, shooting efficiencies also correlate closely between NCAA and NBA.

    Someone take notes for the unbelievers.

    • Good shooters tend to be good shooters no matter the level they play at. Good FG% stays up jumping from the NCAA to the NBA, and that 40% positive correlation is the strongest among every shooting metric depicted in the chart above.
    Correlation between NCAA FT% and NBA 3P%.

    Please sticky for the uninitiated.

    • Interestingly — and this has been widely discussed around scouting corners — amateur FT% tends to correlate nicely with professional 3P%, the relation sitting at 27%. That’s nothing otherworldly, but it is the largest of correlations between seemingly unrelated metrics among those used for this category.
    • When it comes to negative correlations, FG% and 3P% are the two most-clashing stats in terms of NCAA and NBA production. The higher field-goal percentages in the NCAA, the lower 3P% in the NBA and vice-versa. Something similar happens with FT%—the lower scoring from the charity stripe in the NCAA, the higher FG% in the NBA, and vice-versa.
     
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    Rockets can be dumb but... there's no real evidence thus far to show they're "passing on Banchero" , or otherwise eschewing BPA for "accommodating" their......third team all rookie post player
     
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    And finally, not only does DEFENSE MATTER it translates best from amateur to professional level.
    • The DRtg metric correlates much more strongly than the ORtg one. Offensive contributions have a positive 13% correlation between the amateur and the pro levels of play, while the defensive ones have a much stronger 28% (more than double) correlation between both leagues.
     
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    Which is why Chet and Jabari rank higher than Paolo.
     
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    Yep, notice the crickets from the hoi poloi?

    Laying low because there is only so much science you can dispute, before it punches you in the face.
     
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    There are rumours on the net that OKC is interested in Ivey. I think he might be part of a backup plan.
     
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    Banchero makes me nervous because of his defense and poor 3P shooting. Would Sacramento be in love with him? Could we get either get Holmes and #4 for #3? Would you take #4 and next year top 10 protected? If we got #4 who would you take? All of this only pertains if Chet or Smith(my preference) aren’t available.
     
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    This is bound to fluctuate until draft day.
     
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