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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 17, 2022.

  1. cmoak1982

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    You don’t watch more tape than me bud. I’m sorry you just don’t.
    You can try and change the discussion all you want, doesn’t make you right.
    Facts are facts. You keep bringing up additional stats to combat the fact that Paolo is a below average shooter in college.
    And yes, my opinion is Sengun is comparable level player. I think his upside is higher if his body develops. But that’s more to do with what I think Paolo’s upside is more than anything.

    His strengths are going to be difficult to unleash, specially on the rockets. A high usage, high volume shooter on a team with Green, KPJ and Wood isn’t going to work.
     
  2. Verbal Christ

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    I wasnt responding to D .. he just needed to white knight the other clown who claims that free throw shooting is an indicator of future sucess in that department (I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE) and yet Banchero will not improve, but yet Sengun will? Mr 25% 3 point shooter going to improve but a guy who shot better albeit at a closer range who shares the same free throw shooting will not? explain that? I've lost all my patience for this.
     
  3. Spooner

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    Dwight Howard shot 533. from 3 this year. By your logic he's an elite three pointer shooter. Amazing.
     
  4. cmoak1982

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    Not even good.
    Most reports say average to below average. Hence the poor defender critique.

    Yes, there are levels between the two. But they are much closer athletic levels than compared to any elite athlete in the league.
    Average, above average, solid. Nothing below average except lateral agility and top end speed.
     
  5. cmoak1982

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    Wow. Keep on moving those goalposts man.

    What qualifiers do you want to put on next? Minimum attempts? Specific shot types? Locations?
    Find one area where Paolo was a good shooter in college.
     
  6. Spooner

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    I'm not moving any goalposts you have been reluctantly admitting to things for pages now and it is pretty hilarious.
     
  7. cmoak1982

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    Simple question.
    Is Paolo a good 3 pt shooter?

    I have literally said nothing else besides that. If you want to claim he’s an average catch and shoot 3 pt shooter, go ahead. Be my guest.

    Good luck with the Banchero buddies when Banchero is stuck in a corner shooting 3s.
     
  8. D-rock

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    Had enough of what?

    Posting?

     
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    Your concerns in drafting PB are valid and they're the same as mine. However the arguments some people come up with are absurd.
     
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  10. Spooner

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    Yes Paolo is slightly above average on catch and shoot 3 pointers. Because I'm talking to a simpleton we will take out every other factor including volume.
    I believe he will improve and I believe his improvement will be faster than Sengun who is much, much further behind. Given Paolo's skillset it would be pretty dumb to put him in the corner. Thats more of a Jabari Smith role.
     
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    Did not discuss 3P projections at all.

    I was supporting the FT%, FTA and overall efficiency of both players utilizing pre-draft data.

     
  13. lkrockets

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    Oh come on! Why do people say things so easily falsified by ticking through *literally* the most accessible scouting reports.

    KOC on PB: "A strong and quick defender who could potentially develop into a versatile on-ball stopper. He can slide laterally against smaller guys and might be best suited as a small-ball 5 due to his comfort switching screens."

    Hollinger on PB: "... His clips in isolation defense show a guy who is comfortable sliding his feet out on the perimeter, and he didn’t default to giving yards of space and allowing easy pull-up 3s the way some bigs do. In his best moments, he could play close enough to remove any pull-ups at all .... Banchero seems to change direction pretty well, but in straight-line speed challenges he is vulnerable; little fast guys give him problems, but he can defend anyone two through four on the perimeter pretty capably."
     
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    Lol. Only resort to insults when you know you’ve lost an argument.
    You brought up catch and shoot as if it’s some kind of end all be all.
    36% is average for catch and shoot, not good.
    33/34% is below average overall.

    Unless you are saying the majority of Paolo 3pt attempts will be catch and shoot, your point means nothing.
    There is no way to be a play starter and a catch and shoot 3 pt shooter at the same time.
    Which will Paolo be?
    If all he is going to be is a spot up shooter, trade up or trade down.
     
  16. cmoak1982

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    And yet, you can find numerous scouting reports that claim the opposite and that he is a poor defender.
    Hence, the word “most” being used.
     
  17. Spooner

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    This consistent with a lot of scouts. Avery Johnson went as far as saying he would be a great defender.(lets not get ahead of ourselves) Its really about the feet. Paolo has some of the best feet I've seen from a 6'10 guy. He is super fluid with that body and there is no denying that. He's already imposing physically on offense and not afraid of contact. He needs to put that physicality and footwork to the defensive end.
     
  18. Spooner

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    35% is average. 36% is above average. Can you do math? We've gone over that one many times. Paolo is most definitely a play starter. He would essentially play point forward and that would a fantastic fit with Green on offense. And now somehow, you are making this discussion about Paolo's perceived weakness into the only thing that will translate for him. Like, who is drafting Banchero to play explicitly the role of a spot up shooter. What? How very strange.
     
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    So it's early, but the odds-on favorite right now to replace Green vs. Mobley seems to be Banchero vs. Sengun. I didn't expect that. I thought for sure the favorite at this point would be Banchero vs. Ivey or maybe Banchero vs. Sharpe. I'm not even sure I had Banchero and Sengun on my radar, but it's clearly risen to the top—anyone want to set the odds on this? Is 2-1 too low? Maybe 3-2? Or is there an underdog who's going to sweep in before the draft and take it last-minute?
     
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