I'd make Bernie blush with what I want done with taxes, anti-trust, corporate influence, and healthcare.... I understand the role the U.S. military has in the world, even if they haven't always been used appropriately. I support a powerful, influential military but hate what congress/pentagon does with procurement. I think most, but not all of the woke stuff from the left is just nonsense... I also suspect the right amplifies their influence far beyond their true reach, but I don't know that. I'd throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to the police in this country. Completely broken. Yeah, I don't see anyone out there who thinks like me running for office.
Majority of my close friends are slightly left leaning liberals. I know a few far left people but they’re definitely the minority. Majority of the right wing people I know get their news from memes.
Actually, that's pretty much all of them. At least the ones I know. All they care about is pissin' off the liburels. How many Trump supporters do you think even know who William F. Buckley was? Probably about none.
So, since I pay out in taxes more than I receive in benefits, I should be voting for the party that wants to cut benefits and reduce taxes? Why do you think I'm voting against my own self-interest?
I would be interested to see the methodology behind that poll. I’m on my phone right now and will look it up when I can but I do recall that if you look at by tax rolls Democratic leaning states and counties tend to pay more in taxes than Republican ones.
I'd say conservative America is definitely a minority in terms of their ideas being popular not just in the U.S., but the rest of the developed world. What would be considered a radical liberal in America might very well be considered to be a conservative or moderate in other parts of Europe. Areas where your liberals in America that are supportive of say a universal healthcare system but wish to keep the 2nd Amendment as is with little to no modifications would likely be considered a moderate or conservative in European circles as universal healthcare is a settled issue both conservatives and liberals agree has more pros to it than cons in their respected nations. It's all perspective. If you're politically active at a local level, where singularly you can make the most significant hopefully positive impact for people that live in the same community as yourself, you will never find yourself alienated as there is likely a local politically active group for damn near every political ideology in need of active members themselves.
The federal government gets money from many sources when it comes to revenue. California, for example, has many corporations based here that pay enormous amounts of money to the Federal Government. The corporations do not vote though, the people vote. The dozen people that work at the McDonalds down the street from Cisco Systems making 15 bucks an hour are not net taxpayers, but the corporation paid over a billion dollars in federal corporate income tax (not to mention the income taxes paid by all of the engineers and programmers who work there, who are far outnumbered by low income people).
i prefer illegal alien, thats what they called us back in the 90s...before that we were wetbacks....*shrugs
That is a good point but to just to note polling shows that most of those programmers are voting Democratic otherwise places like the Bay Area wouldn’t be so deep blue. So while yes there might very well be that more lower income support Democrats there are still many wealthy that do also. Accepting the poll you cited the numbers arent showing a huge disparity between support for the parties based on income levels.
Some of them. Over $50k income is R+6, not R+100. Some of the McDonalds workers vote against Democrats. Under $50k income is D+5, not D+100. Yes, about 43% of them. An 11 point difference is huge. If a candidate could find a wedge issue that gave him an 11 point advantage, it would be in every one of his campaign ads.
I’ll accept your argument except that not quite sure where you’re getting an 11 point advantage. By your own admission there are more people making less than $50K (US Median per capita income for 2021 was about $36K) so then that would reduce the significance of the difference between higher income earners and increase difference for lower income earners.
About 2 to 1 for individual income of 50k. That doesn't change that the swing using that cutoff point is 11 points. Below 50k is D+5, 50k and above is R+6, that is an 11 point swing. Because there are more people below 50K, that is why you end up with more Democrats (Biden beat Trump in the popular vote by almost 7 million votes.
That math doesn’t work out. You can’t just add up the % difference between two different groups with different population sizes and polled separately and say that is the total difference of the combined electorate. Leaving that aside I will agree that Democrats have an advantage with those who earn less and Republicans do with those who earn more. That said there are still significant amounts of those earning less leaning Republicans and those earning more supporting Democrats. In both cases 43% of those groups which does represent a significant portion of those groups.
No one said otherwise. I said that the Democrats transfer money to their voters. That is largely the case if those who have net negative tax rates favor D+5 and those with net positive tax rates favor R+6.
