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Trading #3 for #1

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ilias, May 19, 2022.

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What would you add on top of the 3rd pick to move up to #1?

  1. Nothing, happy to stay at 3

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  2. 17th pick in this draft

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  3. 1 Nets pick

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  4. 2 Nets picks

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  5. 2 Nets picks and 1 swap

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  6. 2 Nets picks and 1 swap

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  7. 1 Nets pick and 1 swap

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  1. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

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    If we’re not interested in Banchero just take Ivey at 3.
     
  2. xaos

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    Wont fit with Sengun? Let's pick Banchero and see what we can get for Sengun + #17 then




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  3. xaos

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    In all seriousness I'd rather take Ivey over Banchero regardless of fit
     
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  4. gmoney411

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    You think Orlando would turn down pick 3 this year and the Rockets 2023 pick unprotected? I think they would accept that deal as soon as it reached them.
     
  5. YOLO

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    The rockets aren't doing that. let it sink in what you're actually proposing
     
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  6. xaos

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    Come on man
     
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  7. Aruba77

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    I’d rather give up #17 to move to #1 than throw in Brooklyn picks. I think the Brooklyn pick swaps in the early years are fine too but I don’t think they have a ton of value to a trade partner.

    I’m less excited about giving up future picks; especially unprotected pick if we can avoid it. Obviously the Milwaukee pick is a no brainer to move up to #1 but I’d want to avoid using it to move up from 17. We should be using players, not unprotected picks, to move up.

    With the way the lotto is now, even a team like Milwaukee could lose The Greek Freak for part of the season and finish in the lotto or close to it. All lotto team have a chance at a top pick.

    early year Brooklyn pick swaps and players, even #17 should be in consideration to move up, but we should try to avoid giving up Brooklyn picks, and even next yr’s Milwaukee pick should not be traded lightly.
     
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  8. photojoe

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    This draft is unique in that there isn't a consensus #1 guy this year. If you look at mock drafts, there are just as many that have Paolo going #1 as there are as him going #3. The general consensus seems to be that there are three guys in the top tier and a bit of a drop off after that, but all 3 of them have legitimate question marks also. Because of that - for this year, I don't really think the #1 pick is all that much better than the #3 pick to be honest. I have my preference for who I most want us to draft, but it isn't worth attaching the additional assets to move up from #3 to #1. I would rather use these assets to move up from #17 or to acquire more in the future
     
  9. gmoney411

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    I know what I am proposing but you said nothing else to offer. The Rockets have more assets besides Green that could get the Magic to swap picks with them is the point. The Mavericks were able to move up for Luka and it didn't take a ridiculous haul. It didn't take a huge deal for the 6ers to move up and get Fultz either.
     
  10. YOLO

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    that offer is another version of throwing in jalen green. terrible and makes no sense
     
  11. gmoney411

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    I agree it is. But very recent history has shown it doesn't require nearly that much to move up two spots in a draft where there is comparable talent and no clear cut number 1. In fact, when Fultz was the clear cut number one it still didn't take a huge haul for Philly to get him. There is absolutely no reason to dismiss this post as unrealistic.
     
  12. YOLO

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    its definitely unrealistic because as i pointed out the rockets aren't throwing in jalen green or an unprotected 1st to move up. Atl ended up with a top 10 pick in the deal in addition to Trae.
     
  13. gmoney411

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    I doubt they would even have to throw in their unprotected first to move up two spots. The Mavs didn't have to do that for Luka and the 6ers didn't have to for Fultz. The Rockets could possibly get it done it for their 2023 pick protected or some combination of 17 and/or other firsts they own.
     
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  14. YOLO

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    The mavs had to throw in a future 1st rounder that turned out to be a top 10 pick for Atl

    Philly ended up having to convey their 2019 first-rounder to Boston that ended up the #14 pick in their deal for Fultz
     
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  15. xtruroyaltyx

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    I disagree with the notion that paolo and green will be turnstiles and therefore if they are on the same team you have to have three great d players in the lineup with them.

    First of all, regarding green…his defense is not awful. In fact he’s a very very good one on one defender. His team defense needs work but that should improve with experience. But even as a skinny 19 year old kid Green better than held his own when guys tried to iso him. That too will only get better with experience and strength.

    Regarding Paolo, he has the tools to be a good defender and he’s shown flashes of great defense. He’s a teenager, so I expect he’ll be more dedicated as he gets older and wiser.

    I keep seeing that he’s not going to get a lot of blocks so his defensive ceiling will be limited…

    First, I see him more as a sf/small ball 4.
    There have been a lot of good defenders in that mold that don’t get a lot of blocks.

    We’ve had a few around here…Chuck Hayes, Ariza, pj tucker

    Draymond is not a big shot blocker and he’s one of the best defenders at the four position.
    Not saying he’s Draymond but blocking shots is not a pre requisite to being a good defensive 4.

    If you look at the teams left in the playoffs none of them really have 4s that you’d consider to be rim protectors in that mold.

    Also that 65-17 Rockets team had one kinda sorta rim protector…6’10” Capela. Other than that it was about guys switching and good team defense.

    Basically, I disagree with the notion that if Paolo is the pick you are locked into HAVING to surround him and green with defensive specialist.
     
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  17. gmoney411

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    It was a protected future first.
     
  18. YOLO

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    that ended up having to convey because Lakers pick didn't fall between No. 2 and No. 5 in the 2018 draft
     
  19. gmoney411

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    That was the Kings pick and not the 6ers and it was a protected first.
     
  20. YOLO

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    nope incorrect, because of what i just posted philly had to convey the pick.

    On top of its No. 3 overall pick, Philadelphia is also sending the 2018 first-round ‎pick it owns via the Los Angeles Lakers, which the Sixers acquired from Phoenix at the 2015 trade deadline. But if that Lakers pick doesn't fall between No. 2 and No. 5 in the 2018 draft, Philadelphia will instead send a 2019 first-rounder to Boston that it acquired from the Sacramento Kings

    so once again, Philly ended up having to convey their 2019 first-rounder to Boston that ended up the #14 pick in their deal for Fultz
     

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